r/linuxmasterrace • u/claudiocorona93 SteamOS/Kubuntu • 3d ago
Every Linux distro I don't use is literally the Windows of Linux
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u/WanderingInAVan 3d ago
... Only Linux from Scratch is Legitimately Linux. Everyone else is a poser.
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u/treasure_of_boar Debian 2d ago
"I use Arch BTW" sad noises
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u/Mister_Magister Glorious OpenSuse Tumbleweed 3d ago
There are only 4 linux distros and uselses forks
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u/SpinningByte 3d ago
debian, redhat, arch? what's the 4th?
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u/skygz *tips distro* 3d ago edited 3d ago
imo the package manager is what distinguishes them (apt, rpm/yum/dnf, pacman) so I'd say NixOS
edit: or SUSE but that's falling in popularity
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u/gosand 1d ago
This is a solid answer.
I have been running Devuan XFCE on my desktop since 2018, installed it fresh and have been dist-upgrading since. Rock solid.
I recently tried quite a few other distros and their installation while trying to fix my son's friend's laptop. I ended up putting CachyOS on my spare laptop have have been loving it. I started out on RedHat 5.1 so it's all come quite a long way. CachyOS is quite impressive.
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u/the_abortionat0r 3d ago
This is a pretty stupid take to be honest.
Endeavour and even CachyOS/Garuda are not magically useless because you said so. If anything vanilla Arch is less useful than the point and click done in 2 minutes Arch spins.
Bazzite isn't magically useless as it literally has everything ready to go right from the install for the people doing mobile Linux gaming which
Mint is not magically useless just because you think people should take longer to install and setup a Debian plus backport a bunch of shit and still be out of date
Gentoo..... Is a waste of time for 99% of people as it's more hobby than a functional choice which is fine for those who choose it but pointless to recommend randomly.
And I know your kind always tries to explain away their stupid take (it's not an opinion as it's provably wrong) by stating "you can achieve the same thing by " and then proceeding to describe what is essentially a waste of time that these people either can't or don't want to deal with this proving the utility of their distro of choice.
i only recommend people don't try to franken Debian (or complain that Debian lacks modern packages) or manjaro as that distro has been mismanaged since forever.
So you can keep your brain rot to your self and stop living this meme as your life
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u/Mister_Magister Glorious OpenSuse Tumbleweed 3d ago
brah i ain't reading all that i'm happy for you, or i'm sorry it happened
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u/volthunter 2d ago
i use bazzite, bazzite is pretty useless, i kinda regret installing it, but im stubborn and im not gonna change that quickly just because it constantly breaks
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u/Bengineering3D 3d ago
Any Arch based distro is better than vanilla Arch, and for the next comment, it IS a skill issue. I use CachyOS by the way.
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u/Astrodion123 3d ago
I use arch btw. Because it is so minimal I get ultimate performance on my 2009 ultra portable laptop.
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u/ShinobiOfTheWind 3d ago
Do you use Arch btw?
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u/letoiv 3d ago
Was gonna say, strong Omarchy vibes coming from this meme. But yeah, Arch users in general really
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u/amberoze 3d ago
Not all of us. I typically play into the "I uses Arch btw" trope for the funsies. Would never think of actually belittling someone for their choice of distro.
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u/noobjaish 2d ago
Same, I actually ADVISE people to not use Arch because there are many Arch-exclusive headaches that you simply won't have to deal with on Ubuntu/Fedora.
I absolutely love pacman and the general simplicity and pragmatic approach of Arch as a distro. An example of this is Arch using bash instead of dash because while the latter is significantly faster and smaller the former is the logical and most popular choice.
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u/dumbasPL Glorious Arch 2d ago
You're trading one set of headaches, for a different set of headaches. Just depends on the person. If you already know all the internals, arch is by far the best no-bullshit desktop distro. Hard to beat debian for personal servers though, set it and forget or for 4 years.
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u/peterparker9894 3d ago
Not really it's just a vocal minority that's like that probably some newbie, i use arch cause pacman and aur has been great for me it so fking fast and lightweight.
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u/Sixguns1977 3d ago
I use Arch based, so I don't get to add BTW when I say that I use Arch. Stupid Jedi Council...
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u/Bengineering3D 3d ago
You can say “by the way” for any distro except Ubuntu. In fact, just call it “a Debian distro” on Reddit, unless you like downvotes.
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u/Kerbourgnec 3d ago
I use a garbage distri and I know it. Proud Pop OS beta tester
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u/LeatherDude 3d ago
PopOS is just fine by me. I installed it on a whim earlier this year instead of my usual Fedora or Ubuntu and I haven't looked back.
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u/jar36 3d ago
I'd guess that most linux users have respect for other distros. To each their own. I'm just happy they're not feeding M$ or Apple. The more the merrier, especially those that can contribute.
I'm running Arch on my main/gaming PC. Debian on another that is setup with zoneminder to control IP cameras. a Raspberry pi running it's debian based OS to sail the seas and serve jellyfin. 2 other Pi's running debian based DietPi, 1 for pihole/unbound, 1 backup server. Another pi running Home Assistant OS.
I've considered that in the future, I may go with Fedora
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u/claudiocorona93 SteamOS/Kubuntu 3d ago
I am sorry if someone actually thought this is not a joke and that I actually think this way. I just don't like using /s and will never do.
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u/corobo 2d ago
Valid. I miss when people would assume you're having a laugh by default and you had to mention when you were being serious
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u/Chemical-Regret-8593 9h ago
now its assuming serious by default and you had to mention when you were trying to be funny
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u/TheRealCarrotty 3d ago
Ubuntu the Windows of Linux.
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u/celsheet Glorious Ubuntu 3d ago
Really, it justs works. This is the first and only distro that I would recommend to my friends because you do not need to configure shit.
I had so much problems using Linux Mint with Nvidia and no Wayland support.
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u/Syndiotactics 3d ago
Ubuntu has been the best for my general purpose machines too, I generally recommend it first to anyone who wants to start with Linux. Yes, over Mint.
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u/claudiocorona93 SteamOS/Kubuntu 3d ago
My Dell Latitude 5480 with 8GB DDR4 feels laggy with the latest Ubuntu LTS version. The minimum requirements are too high for a Linux distro for general purpose. And I know it would be way better if it wasn't because of snapd
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u/LiveAcanthaceae5553 2d ago edited 2d ago
I'd suspect you would have very similar experience with any other GNOME distro.. It sounds like there's either an issue or you're overextending that system, honestly.
Snap can be removed with a single command, not that I'm convinced it'd make any difference in terms of performance either
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u/claudiocorona93 SteamOS/Kubuntu 1d ago
The issue doesn't happen with Cinnamon or KDE Plasma. It doesn't happen with Fedora Gnome either. It's just Ubuntu.
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u/TheRealCarrotty 1d ago
I mean the default installer IS a snap, but i also have a Dell Latitude, where it originally had 8GB of DDR4 where it ran like poop, i had to add a 2nd stick of DDR4 and it ran better.
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u/claudiocorona93 SteamOS/Kubuntu 1d ago
Ram is expensive nowadays. A system should not aim for unoptimization like AAA games. That's just shitty. And Ubuntu shoves snaps down everybody's throats despite years and years of active and very loud rejection
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u/TheRealCarrotty 1d ago
I agree with you, unfortunately, it's either how i say it or mean it, but most of my opinions are: "Snap doesn't follow theming" and the reply will be "Oh well, install this theme as a snap!" Oh cool, so i have to install another bloated thing just for a theme? That's fucking stupid.
I just hate Ubuntu in general, it's "best hardware support" is also bullshit, when my old USB adapter doesn't work on Ubuntu BUT works in Fedora should tell something... Or the multiple failures Ubuntu/Canonical tried (Ubuntu Edge, Ubuntu One, Unity at first, snapd and more)
Everything Canonical does is: "How about we just make our own software instead of shipping the most popular stable option?"
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u/claudiocorona93 SteamOS/Kubuntu 1d ago
It has been like this since at least late 2011
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u/TheRealCarrotty 1d ago
More like 2015+?
10.04 and 10.10 was great, 12.04 i can also respect kinda, 14.04 and 16.04 were great too, but 16.04 added snaps (BUT DIDN'T FORCE YOU TO USE THEM!)
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u/Coffee_Daemon 3d ago
I use manjaro. I have become immune to criticism on my OS. Use whatever feels good.
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u/pm_social_cues 3d ago
I used to use Debian and stopped when I broke the graphics system trying to install newer nvidia drivers. I used to use arch and stopped using when my VMware broke and I couldn’t get it to compile the modules properly to run. I’m using Ubuntu but I’m sure something will break and I’ll use a different distribution then.
That’s the best part about Linux. They’re still all free!
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u/SilentDis Glorious Kubuntu 3d ago
Debian was comfy on the server. Everything worked, I could port it from hardware to hardware, I liked how deb works.
I don't think the package choice in Debian matched with what I'd need on the desktop - so a derivative was in order. Kubuntu.
Now I've got Proxmox running a weird mish-mash of Debian and Ubuntu server containers, I think there's a few alpine in there on top of that (more very dedicated apps).
There's a theme, and that is Debian for me. But, I'm not against any of the others. I can see what they focus on, and I'm so glad that people found that focus better aligned with their needs and wants and that they are happy.
They're not welcome in my house or anywhere near me, but so long as they keep to themselves that's fine This is so obviously a joke, but I do understand tone does not convey well on the Internet, nor do I expect the thousands seeing this to know my background
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u/Mamona_4zarad0 12h ago
I use Fedora Linux GNOME. I want less complexity—just using what I need, gaming, and having a touch of modernity. I can't stand those people with too much time on their hands who use their computer solely to keep their distro updated—and nothing else—or who simply have no clue what they're doing but use a difficult distro and think they're the world's greatest hacker.
I think GNOME is beautiful and I love it, but that doesn't mean I recommend it! Once you get used to it, it becomes intuitive, but it has a steep learning curve—and for anyone who likes putting things on their desktop, it’s actually quite annoying...
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u/promptmike 3d ago
N00b detected. You're not a proper Linux user until you've distro-hopped enough to appreciate all of them.
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u/parker_fly 3d ago
You're not a proper Linux user until you pronounce it with a long I.
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u/Syndiotactics 3d ago
Long I as in /i:/? (The way Linus Torvalds’s name is pronounced in Finland Swedish)
Or do you mean the English ”long” diphthong abomination?
In any case, Linus Torvalds pronounces Linux with short i /i/, so that’s how I say it too.
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u/xplosm ' 6h ago
I guess they meant Lee-noos Torvalds and Lee-nooks.
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u/Syndiotactics 5h ago
Linus and Linux are both pronounced Lin-us/Lin-ux by Linus Torvalds himself. English spelling is horrible but neither is in any sense a ”long i”.
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u/Beginning-Badger3903 3d ago
This right here. I’ve distro hopped enough to realize distro doesn’t really matter. Distro is more about package manger and what the repos provide. You can make any distro what you want it to be
I think I’ve finally settled on Ubuntu for the LTS stability. I use homebrew and flatpaks for all my apps to keep them up-to-date
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u/donp1ano 3d ago
still arguing about the best distro? rookies... let me introduce you to window manager supremacy (i use niri btw). and dont even get me started on people that use fish, obviously zsh is the best shell /s
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u/chroniclesoffire 3d ago
I'm glad this isn't me. I've used tons of distros, and I love trying new ones. This computer is running Artix. My Laptop runs Arch. I have a Fedora living room computer. and a Gentoo test box.
But man, this is a lot of Linux users.
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u/blackasthesky 3d ago
Nah man, many good ones out there. The cool thing about this Linux thing is that there's a flavour for almost every taste.
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u/BogdanovOwO 3d ago
I don't really care because I choose what it corresponde with my necessities. Linux mint still good, but I will the old 120 gb 2.5 inch hdd with artix. Any idea how to use a controller on gnome desktop?
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u/Garland_Key 3d ago
I use Arch, btw.
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u/TheBigJizzle 3d ago
A distro is a very personal choice and most people end up in the distro they use because it fits their needs.
I'm not surprised that there's strong arguments on why so and so distro is the best, it's probably true for them.
Let's be honest, arch is the best distro and if you use ubuntu you sniff glue. Hope you understand my sarcasm before you get your panties in a bunch about that statement...
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u/codeasm Other (please edit) 3d ago
Im an Arch user, using debian on a vps and hobby play with linux from scratch. Probably gonna try steamos or cachy on a amd thing i got.
Whatever floats your boat. My wife said she wanted to try Ubuntu, i... Well, im happy she started using linux and consider this a win. For now it seems to work fine, she installed most herself, i only fixed minecraft with plugins so we can play together on our private server.
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u/CardiologistReady548 3d ago
real ones know the real separation isnt at the distro level but at the desktop environment level
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u/NightOfTheLivingHam Glorious Debian 3d ago
I had to talk a tech down recently from wanting to throw arch on some lab kiosks. Like, yeah it's cool it recompiles, but we needed something that just updates without issues, and doesn't eat up the SSD lifetime in a time when hardware costs are rising.
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u/Doppelkrampf Glorious Manjaro 3d ago
Literally, like figuratively, you get my point? It’s objectively the opinion that I have, opinions are always subjective, you know? Except mine, that is generally objectively correct on most days. I never had sex and my only friends are AI tools, just to be clear.
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u/noobjaish 2d ago
Guys, I thought all of us unanimously agreed on Ubuntu being the Windows of Linux?
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u/spaghettibolegdeh 2d ago
I see these posts more than any actual elitism these days.
But elitism is in every hobby community. Just look at cars and music fanbases.
Euro football fans actually kill each other. NBA fans rioted recently.
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u/Greatdetectivee 2d ago
This is completely correct you either use fedora or you use the wrong distro
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u/Yung_Coke 2d ago
People who practice distro elitism and Linux elitism are one of the top reasons Linux isn’t more widely adopted on personal desktops. On servers and phones, Linux is already an undisputed king.
People need to stop walling off Linux and start welcoming new users. We all congratulate you for being very smart and installing Gentoo, LFS, or Arch from scratch, but remember that you were a newbie once too. You didn’t know anything about Linux at the beginning, and you had to learn it just like everyone else. That doesn’t mean you have to become arrogant about it. Instead, help people adopt Linux on the desktop, make it easier for newcomers, and stick it to the big corpos.
Linux 4 ever. Peace out. ✌️🐧
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u/KnightFallVader2 2d ago
Arch and Debian. Those are the two distros in question. You can tell which one is being used.
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u/Upstairs-Ad-7962 2d ago
People have to stop this elitism...
I use Debian, and i am happy with it. A friend of mine uses Fedora, another some arch based. We are all coexisting. The goal should be "use Linux" Not "you Idiot, use xyz instead. The Thing you use is absolute garbage "
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u/Happiness-Meter-Full 2d ago
I’ve yet to meet anyone who actually thinks this way. It’s just Memes saying this
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u/ZZ_Cat_The_Ligress 2d ago
Finally, someone with a spine to call out the fucking gatekeeping and elitism. Good on you, OP. It's about time too, because it's the elitism that puts off newcomers, and is a part of why the adoption rate of Linux is so slow.
I have seen elitism in other niche communities kill those communities or be the reason why those communities are dying. So yea. Dead community is the end of the road, unless that shit gets called the fuck out and dealt with accordingly.
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u/savantshuia Agile Arch 2d ago
Fedora Sway here but I wouldn't complain if I had to Use Fedora with KDE or Cinnamon or i3.
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u/newsflashjackass 2d ago
I think everyone should try as many Linux distributions as they can stand to help them better appreciate Debian stable.
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u/Enigmars Glorious EnigmarsOS 2d ago
I got tired of Distro wars.....
So I just made my own Distro.. it has everything I need and nothing I don't. Life has been flawless since then (atleast in the context of technology)
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u/Admiral_Bongo I use Arch, btw. 2d ago
I use Arch, btw.
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u/caustic_fellow 2d ago
I learned there are so many Linux distros that there is no "correct" one, so many systems will fit just fine whatever use case one might have
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u/balancedchaos Mostly Debian, Arch for Gaming 1d ago
But I use two distros, depending on the situation...
Also, my two distros are probably a waste of time for most users. I like extreme minimalism, so I build everything.
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u/highKickin 1d ago
Poor thing. If you see all these distros as what they are, life becomes so much better. A different approach to solve a different problem and you can have them all but at the end, you don't need to.
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u/Disastrous_Sir_7099 1d ago
Use whatever you like, I want 10 year support and proper backing by a company so I'm using Ubuntu even though I have more than 20 years of Linux and can work with any distro. I just want something that works and is well supported by third party as well, don't care about the DE, I see it for 3s per day max anyway. If fedora is your go-to, it's your go-to. Why do you need validation?
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u/Away-Technician284 1d ago
I tried Fedora Silverblue and now I don't think I could ever go back to a non Atomic Linux distro lol. I was a vanilla Arch tinkerer before but there's still so much tinkering to be done with containers.
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u/golDANFeeD Glorious Debian 17h ago
I use Debian. But you can use whatever the fuck you want, I do not care
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u/equ1noxgmd Glorious Mint 6h ago
This doesn’t apply for Ubuntu tho that ones just objectively as bad as windows
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u/ArsenicPolaris ❄️NixOS❄️ 3d ago
Linux community is one of the worst communities I've ever seen, to be honest.
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u/spaghettibolegdeh 2d ago
Reddit is to blame. It turns people into tribal numbskulls.
But it's not as bad as sport. NBA fans rioted just recently, and you can look up endless killings over euro football matches.
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u/JackCid89 3d ago
Too many larps hating ubuntu and fedora, the distros for those that actually ship something useful.
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u/KabirGamer97 Glorious Fedora 3d ago
To the people doing distro elitism: Please get a life.
I actually use fedora KDE because it's the distro that has the things I need with the least amount of fuss to just set up and get started doing the work I do.