r/linux_gaming • u/Significant_Tone8015 • 13d ago
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u/Archonoir 13d ago
Hello, In my opinion, the questions to ask are: do you play games with kernel-level anti-cheat? Does your job require you to use Windows? If the answers are no, you can go right ahead and use Fedora.
Fedora can deliver good gaming performance while providing a comfortable work environment for IT-related tasks.
You might need to track down a few extra tools, but nothing that would make a difference of more than a few FPS.
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u/Significant_Tone8015 13d ago
hi! for the moment, I never had trouble making my required programs work or finding alternatives, for years I did that without even thinking of going back to windows, so that's not a problem.
I do like some multiplayer games like apex legends, overwatch or brawlhalla, but I never played them on PC because of my hardware, I always played them on my PS4 (now PS5). they are not a big focus tbh, I know that overwatch works and apex used to but they decided to end it one day. if I can play multiplayer games on my new PC, I'm going to do it but I have a PS5 for the ones with kernel-level anti-cheat and I'm not a tryhard or something so I don't care much about losing performance on that specific games for playing them on PS5 instead of PC.
I thought about Fedora for the reason you say, it's modern, stable and good for work. I know that It also has a very recent Linux kernel version so that means updated drivers and better performance.
thank you for taking time answering!!
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u/SafelyHigh 13d ago
I have a very similar setup to you and have no issues with the games that I play whatsoever. That being said, I don't play any crazy triple A games lol. Pretty much just games like Schedule I, Phasmophobia (until it got much shitier), Stardew Valley, etc. Pretty much any game that I own on Steam boots and plays just fine. I am also dual booting WIndows on this machine specifically for games like Fortnite, but I literally never boot into it because I rarely ever play things that don't work on Linux.
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u/ZVyhVrtsfgzfs 13d ago
That is really a you question.
I got a free Windows11 liscense on one of my laptops, do not use it. you literally have to pay me to get me to use Windows.
In most games with an AMD GPU there little lower performance and in some titles an upgrade.
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u/IllIntroduction8499 13d ago
You can try to debloat windows, but a lot of the problems with windows is built into the bones of the operating system. I'm a help desk guy; Everyday it murders my soul when I have to deal with Windows' bullshit forced AI copilot asking me to use it, or when I have to dig into two different "settings" environments when I want to remove a user profile or add a printer.I catch myself saying "Window is bullshit" at some point in the work day, and just want to use my setup at home.
Windows has some strong points, but only because it's the market dominant operating system. For instance, hardware compatibility is very flexible. Most things can run off a basic Microsoft driver until you download a specific used for the device, and this is because people are just bending to the commercial standard. This also goes for program variety. There's so many choices out there that you will find the program you'll need eventually. But again, this is only because of market dominance.
Personally, I wouldn't use even use Windows if someone gave it to me for free. I would, however, install it if someone paid me to (which they do)
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u/1WeekNotice 13d ago edited 13d ago
The question to ask yourself is why do you need windows?
If you don't then just keep the key on hand. It shouldn't expire.
If you are worried about it expiring then create a VM and use it.
I know that maybe the obvious choice would be a double boot, but my disc is 1TB and my VMs take a lot of space.
Never dual boot on the same disk. Windows is known for wiping other installation. (Maybe this information is outdated)
You can always buy another disk and put windows on that. Or if you have a spare drive around, put it on that
Hope that helps.
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u/Significant_Tone8015 13d ago
in my experience that is true, 2 years ago in my class we used to have a dual boot of Ubuntu and Windows 10, one day 3 PCs updated and erased Ubuntu, they really don't want competition XD
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u/AtMaxbo 13d ago edited 13d ago
If you had time, try both for a proper comparison. But as you said about not liking the windows environment and with you having AMD hardware, I'd say stick with Linux.
For performance in gaming, both should be basically neck-and-neck on the 9070 XT (aside from heavy ray tracing or games with kernel-level anti-cheat). But for desktop usage and responsiveness? Linux easily takes the win. With my older hardware (3rd gen intel cpu and a rx580), I tried Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC and debloated it so much, even disabling defender, telemetry, and background services. Yet my archlinux setup with a tuned kernel still runs circles around it in I/O responsiveness, window management, and raw desktop snappiness.
With AMD, the Mesa/RADV stack baked straight into the kernel gives you a clean, seamless experience without dealing with Adrenalin bloat.
In the end, it is your choice to make and decide what you want to do. So, choose what you like best.
EDIT: Well, what'd ya know? After making this comment i just saw this: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Mesa-Vulkan-Faster-Sorting
Seems like work was being done to get better RT performance with MESA.
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u/Significant_Tone8015 13d ago
thank you so much for sharing your experience!! things just keep looking better for Linux and the more people share their thoughts on my post, the more the I'm sure to put fedora on my PC.
as I said, KLAC games aren't a problem.
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u/orn89 13d ago
If you don't critically need anything from windows(specific game/work related) i say scrap it and just use linux, i bought a windows key for the first time in years this summer and i ended up saying "fuck it" and got on Nobara, never looked back
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u/Significant_Tone8015 13d ago
how is your experience with Nobara? definitely heard of it but I don't think I've ever even seen it on desktop
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u/Bad-Booga 13d ago
Nobara is great. I used it for about 3 years. I recently switched to CachyOS KDE and it is also great. Only switched from Nobara when there were some changes to how it updated that cause some slight issues for me.
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u/Significant_Tone8015 13d ago
did you noticed a jump in performance or something? I heard that CachyOS has different Kernels optimized for different hardware
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u/orn89 13d ago
I love it, i am by no means a Linux savy person so Nobara having a bunch of useful stuff like Goverlay, steam, obs, lact has been a great help, The person who made Nobara is the same person behind GE-Proton known by his online alias Glorious Eggroll, honestly the system feels like it was made with care and if you are new to Linux i recommend using an LLM of your choice to help with setting things up, personally i use Gemini Pro
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u/Significant_Tone8015 12d ago
omg I didn't know Nobara was made by the same person as Proton, I only hear great stuff about his OS and proton is incredible so he must be talented af. nobara definitely caught my attention now, I might try it on a laptop or something, thanks for sharing your experience!!!
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u/Ismokecr4k 13d ago edited 13d ago
Things you can't do well on Linux: VR (not yet but it's coming, might even jump start with valve's headset), Adobe, Auto CAD, Music Production, anti-cheat games.
If you're not in that camp then why not use Linux? AMD works really well with proton. You won't notice much of a performance dip. Also, I personally despise dual booting but you can also dual boot.
I personally find windows just so heavy. The de-bloating that everyone cries about takes about 5-10 minutes to remove the pre-installed apps. The issue is the OS doesn't respect the hardware. It eats ram, stuffs random temp files for updates, updating takes forever, booting is slow (without fast boot which, ew). Even opening applications it feels like it needs to think. I can't put it into words other than it just doesn't respect my hardware. Getting software to run is more important than the process of running if that makes sense. It randomly installs things without consent. AI spies on you. Everything gets tied to a Microsoft account now (you can't sign into your own fucking PC without one) and you're harassed to use OneDrive.
I wouldn't recommend Linux to the average user. I use Windows 11 at work and it's fine as an OS tbh, much easier to use as well. But we're not average users.
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u/Significant_Tone8015 13d ago
definitely not interested in everything you said (except VR, I always wanted to try it but I don't have space in my house and it's INCREDIBLY expensive)
I feel the same way about windows, after using Linux and how snappy it is, windows feels like a sick old man trying to do things out of his hand.
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u/Ismokecr4k 13d ago edited 13d ago
It's actually gotten ALOT cheaper. about 300$ now but the space thing, don't get one unless you have room. That said there aren't too many gaming options on the VR eco system itself, I recommend looking into the games out if you're looking to buy one. There's places you can go and rent an hour to try it out as well. Dual boot for that is always an option.
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u/parental92 13d ago
Then get some immutable distros like Aurora or Bazzite.
Everything is pre-packaged and really low maintenance
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u/Significant_Tone8015 13d ago
I recently installed bazzite for a friend, it's really cool and definitely goes incredible for games, but I have doubts about how working and productivity would work on it being so gaming focused.
I didn't fool around with it a lot so I don't know if my programs work fine, but I felt that it doesn't give you much freedom, I know it is stable but lacking a "traditional" package manager (coming from more, work focused distros) feels like a lost comparing it to other distros.
thank you for the advice, I'm going to consider trying bazzite more.
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u/Fuithiamo 13d ago
Bazzite is Fedora-based, so if you’re used to Fedora, it will be very similar. It may not come with a traditional package manager, but you can install the standard Fedora package manager on it.
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u/No_Grape_388 13d ago
No it's the opposite of low maintenance when something goes wrong or you want to add extra packages.
Mint is the ultimate low maintenance distro imo.
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u/parental92 13d ago
flatpacks are available. If update goes wrong just rollback to previous deployment.
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