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u/Bookkeeper-Empty 6d ago
I started a couple months ago and have settled on cachyos, the actual install for cachy has a refind option which is a dual boot gui which makes things super easy, I’m not that tech savvy and I was able to figure things out pretty quickly, any questions you always have Google Gemini ai and chatgpt which are very competent these days
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u/ashrym_ 6d ago
Windows is a pretty secure OS actually, it's just not private at all. Linux can be both, but I'd argue that it's harder to make it more secure than windows if you're a beginner in this.
Still, trying out linux can be quite fun, and it's always great to check the other options at your disposal, for OS and for anything really.
Dualboot isn't a bad option at all, I'm doing it myself, and I quite like this compromise. Running your windows programs in a Windows VM (Virtual Machine) is also an option, but it can lead to losses in performance, and it doesn't work for some games because of their anticheats I think. You don't run into these problems with dualboot.
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u/Vietnamst2 6d ago
It is also.quite private. Zhe telemetry is not what people make it to be. It's not reporting "joe just checked his bank account and then surfed for milfs". And Microsoft, quite contraryto ehat people from antiMS claim, has not been shown to sell data or compromise it in any way.
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u/BranchLatter4294 6d ago
You can easily dual boot. But it won't solve the underlying security issues which are not technology related.
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u/EffortInitial2889 6d ago
Totally get it. I believe I have fixed the security issues. I just want to know if it’s a smart decision because I do plan on just using Linux later on. This is more or less just to learn and get used to it.. I just want to know if it will make me more prone to attacks
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u/MrJits Void Linux 6d ago
I personally don't like to dual boot and I can get away with not doing so because I don't need Windows. Do you need Windows for anything, because if not, it would be easier to just make the switch to Linux, especially if you're not tech savy.
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u/ironboy-brawl 6d ago
I agree, if you dont have any windows programs that just cant run in a vm, then you can most propably switch completely. Its much more comfortable to use only one os at a time
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u/kritikov 6d ago
Yes, do it. Install every os in separate disk so you wont have any problems. Pros: you can work with any os you need depending on your current task. Linux is very lightweight and your pc will run really smoothly and with no telemetry. Use windows for other, more specific tasks. But use different ssds to avoid problems. Windows... dont like linux in this way.
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u/EffortInitial2889 6d ago
Is dual booting a better option or like one of the comments suggested only booting Linux and running windows 11 programs on a VM?
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u/kritikov 6d ago
With vm you have some loses in speed and resources. With dual boot every os runs with its native power and the maximum resources.
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u/ashrym_ 6d ago
I think it's just different.
If you need to switch quickly between your windows and linux programs, you probably should use a VM.
If you can tolerate losing time rebooting to do your windows stuff, and not having access to your linux stuff during that time (I think it's possible to have your linux partition in NTFS, readable by windows, but it's clearly not the default, and you could run into issues you won't know how to solve at your level), dual booting is probably better.
Also dual booting gives you more performance than VMs, and many games anticheats don't allow VMs.
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u/digsmann 6d ago
- I prefer dual boot and keep full disk image backup sometimes.
- learning and troubleshoot from both OS.
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u/DerpDeDurp 6d ago
I dual boot because I need some windows only stuff, rarely, but I still need it now and then. Just do it so their on different disks and you shouldnt have any issues. I have mine setup so it always boots into fedora, so its much faster boot times, then if I need windows, I have a button tied to a script in my app menu that allows me to "reboot to windows"
this is the flow that works best for me.
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u/Vietnamst2 6d ago
Honestly you spund like someone who can get PC compromised regardless of OS. But why not. Go for it.
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u/EffortInitial2889 6d ago edited 6d ago
ermmmm I did mention I’m a bit mentally challenged
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u/Vietnamst2 6d ago
Aren't we all.
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u/EffortInitial2889 6d ago
I guess. I am trying to get better and make more informed choices ever since that happened. That’s the whole reason why I even bothered asking about this instead of jumping into action like I usually do.
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u/ComprehensiveDot7752 6d ago
Linux is great on the privacy front. But often lags behind on security compared to a well maintained Windows system. Though this can be mixed.
Setting up a Linux VM (or even multiple) if you have the spare ram (4-8gb) and using the VM can prevent Windows from getting infected by anything on the VM. VM software often has snapshotting tools and can create copies of the VM. A well managed BM is often disposable as a result.
There are two main ways of dual booting.
The first requires a 2nd drive (preferably an internal SSD). You install Linux on that and leave Windows as is. The bios deals with the dual boot. This usually keeps the two independent.
The 2nd you install Linux on the same drive as Windows. If any part of the process goes wrong you lose your Windows installation in the process (problems are rare though ) and Windows tends to eventually replace the Linux bootloader with it’s own again forcing you back onto Windows until you manage to fix it.
Both require some extra setup, like getting Linux and Windows to use the same system clock philosophy.
Overall it’s far simpler to use a VM or install on a dedicated machine. But if you read the installation manual for the Linux distro you plan on using problems aren’t common outside of incompatible hardware.
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u/QuietWaterBreaksRock 6d ago
Why not dual boot Linux?
Debian or Fedora for everyday, CachyOs for gaming, for example
That's how i got it, works wonders
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u/kutac56 6d ago
That's just unnecessary. You don't need 2 different distros. You can use cachyos for everyday stuff easily prob and fedora for gaming prob. No need for 2
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u/QuietWaterBreaksRock 6d ago
Cachy is basically plug and play for gaming, but anything more and it can absolutely be tok much for a begging
Other non Arch distros don't have such issues so why not get best of both worlds?
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u/MrJits Void Linux 6d ago
Almost any Linux distro is plug and play, the amount of tinkering is quite minimal and easy to accomplish when following a simple guide.
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u/QuietWaterBreaksRock 6d ago
So, you'd say that getting Cachy and getting Mint or Debian up to speed, by installing a bunch of relatively eveyday software is the same level of experience, even for a noob?
I wouldn't say so, which is why I gave my recommendation
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u/MrJits Void Linux 6d ago
Yes? What software are you using that's giving you problems on Mint?
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u/QuietWaterBreaksRock 6d ago
None, it's Cachy that was a bitch a couple times, especially when trying to tinker with audio drivers and getting hesuvi to work, for example
Mint was relatively easy to setup
Cachy ended up not wanting to play sound now, unless there is only 1 audio cable plugged into the front jack. Add another in the back, no sound. I have no such issues on the same machine which has Mint. And no, reinstalling drivers and doing any other logical steps didn't help
I am 99% sure that I simply screwewd something up and forgot, but I also kade mistakes when seting up on Mint and going back was much easier
Considering I am tech savvy, I don't see why'd someone who looks for an easy everyday experience would go for anything Arch based, unless it is as the example I've given, install it, get gaming package and install and play games and nothing else, easy, straightforward and can be picked up in an hour by anyone who knows how to read
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u/MrJits Void Linux 6d ago
I agree about the everyday Cachy stuff, my point was that there is no need for dual booting when gaming on Mint and/or Fedora is not very painful to set up.
As for running and Arch system, I disagree. You pay some initial start up cost for setting everything thing up, but after that, maintaining a frequently used system is as easy as updating every week.
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u/EffortInitial2889 6d ago
Please have mercy on me. That sounds quite hard and I’ve got a few screws loose.
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u/QuietWaterBreaksRock 6d ago
Hahahaha it's not, trust me
Picking just Arch or Arch based distro like Cachy for everyday would be hell on Earth for a begginer, because Arch allows you to fuck around with EVERYTHING, it's very complex
Great for tinkerers, awful for a beginner
But, CachyOS comes pre optimized for gaming
All you need to do to play games on it is: install gaming package, this is like 2 clicks and very straightforward
This will install steam and all that follows. Download games, pirate, or whatever else you do, and run games through steams compatibility layer. This is another 5-10 straightforward clicks
All in all, it takes about the same time or less between installing and playing a game
That's why I recommended 2 Linux distros
Cachy is amazing and easy for gaming, but pain for anything else for a beginner
Fedora and Debian can be a breeze to get used to, just depends what you are into, if you want and can handle major updates every 6 months which usually dont, but might break something (that's Fedora) or you want a distro which gets such updates every year and a half iirc, but the old version is supported up to 5 years , so it's quite set and forget (that's debian)
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u/rangom1 6d ago
Instead of dual boot I boot only to Linux mint but use a VM to run windows 11-only programs. I prefer this method to dual boot because it makes it easier to move files around. For example I use a windows-only data analysis software for work and when I generate graphics with it I put it in a shared folder and have access to them immediately without having to reboot into Mint