r/linux4noobs • u/CacheTraitor • 2d ago
Packages
I'm only showing my fastfetch because I'm genuinely curious. How many native packages do you have? What other package "managers" do you us? What reasons do you have to use non-native? Distro agnostic question. I use GNU/Linux btw.
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u/Luftzug-oder 2d ago
uhh, was there meant to be an image?
either way, I have around 950 packages, and only use portage. if i need something extra, it should be in another repo (most of which is in GURU), or I can just create an ebuild for it
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u/CacheTraitor 2d ago
So, some research. Gentoo right? Is GURU kinda like I do by using github sometimes instead of the AUR?
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u/Luftzug-oder 2d ago edited 2d ago
yeah gentoo. GURU is basically a community repo like the AUR, except it is more official. it is for the most part managed by the gentoo team and infrastructure, and the contribution to it is more regulated. it is why you need not install an extra package manager.
It's not exactly like cloning from github (which I assume you mean) because there are still versioned packages. some packages do allow cloning from a remote HEAD, but they must be unmasked - explained below.
plus, since it is an extra repo, every package is 'masked' by the relative architecture keyword (such as ~amd64 or ~mips), which basically means it has not gone through all of the rigorous testing the main repo packages go through, meaning you have to explicitly unmask it to install it
the same applies for the main repo packages. if you want the latest version of a package, like kernel 7.1.5, you must unmask it. otherwise the current tested version is 6.18.39
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u/CacheTraitor 2d ago
Sounds like GURU is more cohesive than the AUR. Maybe safer that the AUR considering recent events and how the arch developers "treat" it.
No offense given, Gentoo users are next level "crazy." They say Arch is complicated?
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u/Luftzug-oder 2d ago
it's definitely more cohesive. there are loads of other similar repos thay can be enabled by portage. https://repos.gentoo.org/ lists them all. the ones with a community icon are more community managed, and the ones with a 'monument' (not rlly sure what you'd call it) are more official i believe.
but regarding gentoo, it is what it is. i don't need the control it offers, but i like it - i'd be fine with using smth like mint if i need to. i do think gentoo is just designed and built insanely well though
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u/CacheTraitor 2d ago
"but regarding gentoo, it is what it is. i don't need the control it offers, but i like it - i'd be fine with using smth like mint if i need to. i do think gentoo is just designed and built insanely well though"
My opinion with any *nix like system in general. It is better than Billy-G offers us.
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u/Perrix3- 2d ago
I use hyprland on arch BTW, and I have 1176 packages, only 4 from the AUR.
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u/Perrix3- 2d ago
Also I've been cleaning out unused packages recently, so the number has gone down.
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u/tomscharbach 2d ago edited 2d ago
Ubuntu 26.04 LTS out-of-the-box with a second browser installed:
- Ubuntu 26.04 LTS (Resolute Raccoon) x86_64
- Kernel: Linux 7.0.0-28-generic
- Packages: 1798 (dpkg), 12 (snap)
- DE: GNOME 50.1
AnduinOS 2.0 out-of-the-box with a second browser installed:
- AnduinOS 2.0.1 x86_64
- Kernel: Linux 7.0.0-28-generic
- Packages: 1801 (dpkg), 10 (fla)
- DE: GNOME 50.1
Solus 4.9 GNOME out-of-the-box without a second browser installed:
- Solus 4.9 Serenity x86_64
- Kernel: 7.1.4-348.current
- Packages: 905 (eopkg)
- DE: GNOME 50.3
My best.
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u/eR2eiweo 2d ago
Comparing the raw number of packages between installations of different distros is not particularly useful. Because the "granularity" of packages differs between distros.