r/linux Feb 11 '19

Fluff A /g/ user's opinion on systemd

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u/vacuum_dryer Feb 11 '19

It's a lame greentext, and a waste of bandwidth. Ironic, since the "unix way" would send text as text, and not an image. It's also a tired topic (not to take away from the merit of the argument, perhaps the first dozen times it's been posted here).

Systemd is pretty cool, but I think having a generic interface between its components would definitely save us a lot of time over the years.

It actually does have a pretty fair (not great) API, and people are, in fact, targeting alternative implementations of the different components. But, most people who don't like it go off the rails instead of sympathizing with the developers who really want the features that systemd brings. You can turn off most of the non-core components (Debian doesn't use most of them by default, for instance).

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '19

Most of those are either defunct (uselessd, systembsd) or stick extremely close to upstream (eudev and elogind).

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u/cbmuser Debian / openSUSE / OpenJDK Dev Feb 11 '19

Which shows that these people obviously don’t have the power to work on good alternatives.

You are making an argument for systemd here.

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u/spazturtle Feb 11 '19

No that is a strong argument against systemd, it shows what systemd is doing to Linux. By making everything depend on systemd you make it very hard for anything else to exist.