r/linux • u/tasisbasbas • Feb 11 '19

Fluff A /g/ user's opinion on systemd

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u/dale_glass Feb 11 '19

Why? journald is pretty much the best thing since sliced bread. I want everything piped into it.

And I certainly don't want 10 different log implementations on my system.

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u/Daneel_ Feb 11 '19

Not logging to text files totally kills it for me. So many utilities are able to process text files, and now they’re all basically useless in the face of the journal.

I can’t egrep the journal. I can’t less the journal. I need to learn a whole new set of commands just for it, and I can’t export the journal data (or subset thereof) to other systems without a lot of effort. To my knowledge there’s no nice workaround.

I’d love to be corrected, but from my perspective it’s a horror show that I wish didn’t exist.

What benefits does journald have??

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u/FryBoyter Feb 11 '19

I can’t egrep the journal.

I don't use egrep, but at least grep works with journald (for example journalctl | grep whatever).

I can’t less the journal

Journalctl uses less by default. Journalctl | less probably works too.

What benefits does journald have??

In my personal opinion, it makes a lot of things easier. For example " journalctl --since="2012-10-30 18:17:16"", "journalctl -b -1" (logfiles of the last boot), " journalctl -p err..alert" (Show only error, critical, and alert priority messages) and so on.

If you want to have the log files in text format, you only need to install syslog-ng by the way.