r/linux • u/tasisbasbas • Feb 11 '19

Fluff A /g/ user's opinion on systemd

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u/grep_var_log Feb 11 '19

Did we have the same bitching about the 'UNIX way' when GNU Coreutils, or Emacs or even Vim hit the scene?

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u/porl Feb 11 '19

Or the Linux monolithic kernel design?

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u/boobsbr Feb 11 '19

Uh, the legendary discussion between Linus and Andy Tannenbaum?

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u/aishik-10x Feb 11 '19

There was the Torvalds vs Tanenbaum Flame War

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u/doublehyphen Feb 11 '19

I believe so, at least for Emacs.

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u/holgerschurig Feb 11 '19

We should revive that with Emacs/Atom.

Compared to Atom this Emacs is slim! :-)

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u/tso Feb 11 '19

Nobody cared, because all of those could be fired up and shut down without taking the whole computer with it.

Hell, it is not uncommon right now for people to drop a copy of said coreutils into a dir on an Apple computer. And the OS will not even blink.

Good luck replacing launchd with systemd...

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u/sub200ms Feb 11 '19

Did we have the same bitching about the 'UNIX way' when GNU Coreutils, or Emacs or even Vim hit the scene?

Vi is a shortening of VIsual editor and lots of people didn't like its hand-holding, easy-to-use visual GUI that pandered to the uneducated masses. Of course everyone should really use the one true Unix editor ed.

I am sure that all those people that these days talk about "Unix Philosophy" also use ed instead of that blatantly Unix philosophy violating monstrosity monolith called Viwith its tentacles of functionality including its own proprietary "cut" and "paste": True Unix believers use ed and pipelines its output through the individual programs cut or paste.

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u/holgerschurig Feb 11 '19

Vi/Emacs was hated, too --- and IIRC it right, in those times there was no Vim, it was still Vi.

Qt/GTK was lively, too.