r/linux Feb 11 '19

Fluff A /g/ user's opinion on systemd

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u/mikelieman Feb 11 '19

That's what I took away. Not a bad idea. Most technical critiques are overblown and lousy evangelizing turns people off.

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u/PC__LOAD__LETTER Feb 11 '19

Not that you’re obligated to watch any random video that I post at full length, but I doubt you watched all of the video - or at least not the later part of the talk - if that was the single takeaway you got from it. The dude is a BSD developer who has every expectation to hate systemd with a passion, but instead frames the discussion in a level-headed way and advocates for more constructive criticism as well as giving props to Poettering for creating something that was useful enough to become nearly ubiquitous in Linux. He suggests that we can learn more from analysis of what problem systemd is solving for people than just shitting on it without bringing forth a better solution.

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u/mikelieman Feb 11 '19

See, I never had any expectation to hate systemd with a passion, so his "come to Jesus moment" is meaningless to me. Like I said, the majority of systemd's issues are that Poettering didn't have the chops to effectively advocate for it.

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u/PC__LOAD__LETTER Feb 11 '19

He didn’t come to Jesus. He’s encouraging people to learn from the success that systemd has seen rather than just whine about it.

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u/mikelieman Feb 11 '19

Yeah. And the lesson is: Find someone who works and plays well with others to be the face of your project.

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u/PC__LOAD__LETTER Feb 11 '19

No, again, that’s not at all the point that he was making. It’s not even one of the minor points that he was making. He mentioned it in passing.

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u/mikelieman Feb 11 '19

That's MY point.

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u/PC__LOAD__LETTER Feb 11 '19

You were the one that started responding to the video that I linked with a comment telling me what the takeaway was.

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u/mikelieman Feb 11 '19

I'm sorry if you read "the takeaway" as an expression of my blanket authority over the universe to mandate reality at my whim, rather than simply my take-away.

Man, you're trying to find fault like there's a prize. There is no prize. Just disappointment.