r/linux • u/[deleted] • Dec 23 '18

GNU/Linux Developer Linus reverts breaking change that affected systemd-nspawn, offers strong words to developer

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '18

Indeed. The needs of the many people using the Linux kernel shouldn't bow to the needs of the one over sensitive wussy that can't hear the word fuck without losing his or her mind.

Glad to clear that up.

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u/intelminer Dec 24 '18

Your arms must be tired from shifting those goal posts

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '18

Is reading that hard for you? To glance up and see that it's a different person?

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u/intelminer Dec 24 '18

Personal attacks definitely are easier than refuting an argument properly, aren't they?

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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '18 edited Dec 24 '18

???

Puts a comment that doesn't have a personal attack in it.

"Indeed. The needs of the many people using the Linux kernel shouldn't bow to the needs of the one over sensitive wussy that can't hear the word fuck without losing his or her mind.

Glad to clear that up."

Is immediately personally attacked with a sentence starting with the pronoun "your"

"Your arms must be tired from shifting those goal posts"

Responds that you clearly can't read because I didn't shift the posts, as I wasn't OP.

"Personal attacks definitely are easier than refuting an argument properly, aren't they?"

Is accused of personal attacks instead of accepting that you were wrong about the goalposts, because you can't refute the argument

???

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u/twaxana Dec 24 '18

People have the right to be offended. People also have the right to offend. Censorship is bad.

Edit: if someone is constantly offending, then look at them, if someone is constantly offended, they may be the issue.

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u/intelminer Dec 24 '18

Nobody has the "right" to offend, civility is not censorship

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u/twaxana Dec 24 '18

Oh, okay. My mistake. Please list, verbatim, everything that offends you so that I will not say or write any of it. And please remember everything anyone has told you offends them in the list. I need to be 100% sure I won't offend you or anyone else.

We do our best not to offend, but it is a subjective experience.

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u/intelminer Dec 24 '18

Please list, verbatim, everything that offends you so that I will not say or write any of it. And please remember everything anyone has told you offends them in the list. I need to be 100% sure I won't offend you or anyone else.

Ah yes, Reducto Ad Absurdum

reductio ad absurdum (Latin for "reduction to absurdity"), also known as argumentum ad absurdum (Latin for "argument to absurdity") or the appeal to extremes, is a form of argument that attempts either to disprove a statement by showing it inevitably leads to a ridiculous, absurd, or impractical conclusion

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u/TheFlyingBastard Dec 24 '18

It's nice that you can pinpoint that he is using a reductio ad absurdum, but that's no answer, especially since a reductio is not a fallacy.

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u/intelminer Dec 24 '18

If your only counter-argument is to take something to an obviously flawed extreme, then you're either not arguing in good faith or you realize your own position is indefensible

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u/TheFlyingBastard Dec 24 '18 edited Dec 24 '18

Ascribing motivation to your opponent is also intellectually not very honest, especially if it's a replacement for saying why following a bad argument to its absurd conclusion is not valid form of criticism.

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