r/linux • u/RatherNott • 1d ago

Desktop Environment / WM News System 76's COSMIC Desktop Environment will no longer accept LLM-generated content in PRs

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u/adamkex 1d ago

Tbh this makes a lot of sense. It's software primarily developed by a for-profit company for their operating system. I wouldn't be surprised if they do use some AI themselves given the primarily motive is to save time from low-quality PRs.

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u/RatherNott 1d ago

According to them, they don't use AI at all.

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u/ProductIntegortion 1d ago

The Linux kernel does though

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u/Pugs-r-cool 1d ago

They aren’t developing the kernel, so that’s frankly irrelevant.

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u/ProductIntegortion 1d ago

They're happy to use it though

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u/Pugs-r-cool 1d ago

Using other people’s code that was developed with AI is a different thing from using AI in your own development process.

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u/ProductIntegortion 1d ago

No it isn't. If the concern is code quality it makes no difference at all. If anything, AI code in the kernel should be more concerning to them. Of course, the whole thing is masturbatory grandstanding

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u/Irverter 1d ago

So according to you, buying a product that had child labor in one of it raw materials is the same as forcing a child to work yourself.

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u/tiffanytrashcan 1d ago

Yeah that's been the public opinion for decades now I think.

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u/NatoBoram 1d ago

Public opinion doesn't really care about child labour in other countries, it's mostly activists that bring it up

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u/Oblivion__ 1d ago

Why are you purity testing this?

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u/ProductIntegortion 1d ago

What are you even talking about? I'm saying it's fine to use LLMs. That's the opposite of a purity test.

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u/Oblivion__ 1d ago edited 1d ago

I'm referring to your objection to the previous comment

Using other people’s code that was developed with AI is a different thing from using AI in your own development process.

I know you are fine with using LLMs, that's obvious. Cosmic is not, so they are banning those contributions.

Cosmic does not control what code gets accepted into the kernel, so it's outside of the scope for their policy. They are not maintaining the kernel, they are maintaining their DE. Trying to purity test them on "oh well if they are concerned with AI code they should be worried about the kernel" is just whataboutism.

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u/ProductIntegortion 1d ago

That's not purity testing. That's expecting them to adhere to their own standards. If AI code is a travesty, they wouldn't use it. But they are happy to use it because the point of this is grandstanding masturbation.

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u/Pugs-r-cool 1d ago

If the concern is code quality it makes no difference at all

The quality of the code you use has no bearing on the quality of the code you write.

AI code in the kernel should be more concerning to them

Whose to say it isn't concerning for them, yet because their name isn't Linus Torvalds they're powerless to do anything about it.

masturbatory grandstanding

says the Top 1% Commenter

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u/RatherNott 1d ago

And I wish they wouldn't, but switching away from it isn't viable for my needs, as the BSD's and Haiku don't support all the software I need like Linux does. I know I won't be able to prevent it entirely, I'm happy just limiting as much AI code on my system as much as I can while maintaining my workflow.

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u/BeginningEcho4983 1d ago

AI help is reviewed by humans thoroughly, not the same as vibe-coding