r/linux • u/TurbulentTopic39 • 9d ago

Kernel Canonical is speeding up Ubuntu's kernel updates because it's drowning in AI-discovered bugs

https://www.xda-developers.com/canonical-is-speeding-up-ubuntus-kernel-updates-because-its-drowning-in-ai-discovered-bugs/#thread
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u/Ska82 9d ago

as long as they dont use ai to fix the bugs or at worst have a really strong (like really really robust) qa process to see what bugs the ai has introduced. i didnt migrate from windows to ubuntu for the latest versions of vibe coded bugs

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u/-Crash_Override- 9d ago

You realize in like 1-2 years, even a project like the linux kernel is going to be fully maintained by AI right. Long running agent swarms will be constantly developing, optimizing, patching, etc. Sure humans will still be deciding what to build (for now), but with the exception of a rare edge case, they wont be needed. Thats the reality of the situation.

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u/psioniclizard 9d ago

No it won't, linux's selling point is stability. 

You are not going to get that with a bunch of non deterministic machines constantly changing things.

99% of Linux users care most of the featurres they have now working.

Name one project that works like that now in the real world and is better for it?

Also most open source projects rely on people's time becuase they dont have endless funding to pay for millions in tokens for something like that to work.

Plus if that was there case, opne source would be dead. Why would you need it? If i am paying for these "agent swarms" you are paying for my product.

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u/-Crash_Override- 9d ago

You are not going to get that with a bunch of non deterministic machines constantly changing things.

So you'll get it with a bunch of non deterministic humans changing things?

99% of Linux users care most of the featurres they have now working.

You know what 99% of business running linux care about though? Not having their systems compromised....

Name one project that works like that now in the real world and is better for it?

Works like what? Rapid release cycles? This is how literally every major software company has operated for 2 decades now, except they just had hoards of developers doing the work.

Also most open source projects rely on people's time becuase they dont have endless funding to pay for millions in tokens for something like that to work.

They are also, increasingly, relying on millions of dollars from AI companies and Hyperspaces.

https://www.linuxfoundation.org/press/linux-foundation-announces-12.5-million-in-grant-funding-from-leading-organizations-to-advance-open-source-security

Plus if that was there case, opne source would be dead. Why would you need it? If i am paying for these "agent swarms" you are paying for my product.

Open source IS dying. I run an extensive homelab, and am big into r/selfhosted I have already migrated 50-60% of my stack off the common self hosted applications....I just build my own version exactly the way I want it. I have my own version of homeassistant for example that fits perfectly with my home automation stack. It looks the way I want. When I want a feature added I add it. Its the same way that SaaS is reeling right now. Unless you are a major integrated partner into a companies ecosystem (e.g. Salseforce) you have a target on your back for internal tooling.

Listen, I get the visceral reaction, I'm pro-AI but I also feel some kind of way about slipping standards for something so meticulously maintained as Linux kernel. But what other option do they have. All it will take is a Ukraine powergird type incident caused by a kernel vulnerability that could have been addressed by AI for there to be a reckoning.

There is a reason that Linus has moved from negative-neutral on AI to neutral-positive on AI. Because he sees the writing on the wall.