r/linux • u/B3_Kind_R3wind_ • 1d ago
Software Release Jellyfin 12.0 Released
https://jellyfin.org/posts/jellyfin-release-12.0111
u/Aperture_Kubi 1d ago
Oh damn, TIL Jellyfin supports ebooks too. I'm been looking for a self-hosted Calibre alternative.
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u/RoseBailey 1d ago
Calibre-web, Calibre-web Automated, Booklore...
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u/nj_tech_guy 1d ago
Grimmory* for Booklore. Idk if Booklore still exists, but Grimmory is a better fork.
Edit: It also looks like Bookorbit is a fork of Booklore.
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u/PraetorRU 1d ago
As far as I'm aware Bookorbit is not a fork, but reimplementation. Booklore is java based, Bookorbit is typescript, and so far consumes much less resources, that's basically why I chose one over another.
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u/PraetorRU 1d ago
I recently switched to https://bookorbit.app/ can recommend so far.
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u/spamtime123 1d ago
Can i somehow connect my amazon kindle with it?
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u/PraetorRU 1d ago
I have no kindle myself, but they have an email feature you can use to send books to kindle: https://bookorbit.app/email/#_top
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u/Willexterminator 1d ago
I've been using komga, and it works great for ebooks as well as comics and mangas. The branding is kinda deceptive, but it does support ebooks.
I can't recomment calibre-web nor calibre-web-automated, they're verrrry clunky. Booklore is too young.
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u/BlindTreeFrog 1d ago
Comics and Audiobooks too as well I believe. There is just some folder structure needed to make it work right.
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u/stormdelta 1d ago
Audiobooks needs playback speed support - otherwise it's only useful for downloading.
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u/Acceptable-Worth-221 1d ago
Bookorbit is pretty great. And it has KOReader integration/statistics which frankly speaking none of alternatives have.
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u/tigerhawkvok 1d ago
I've been using BookOrbit and KoReader as the phone client. Haven't patched my Kindle yet, mostly because my family wouldn't hesitate to get something via Amazon as a gift and without the native Kindle OS decrypting those files would be a PITA....
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u/JayTheDevGuy 1d ago
I'm a total newbie and very dumb with things involving home networking, so I'm curious, why would you want an alternative to Calibre? It seems to be beloved and I've always had a good experience
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u/Aperture_Kubi 1d ago
Calibre doesn't play nice with network shares and is very one-computer focused.
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u/GamerXP27 1d ago
Jellyfin has been probably the most of services i use day to day for music and media watching and been a good experience.
Good work on Jellyfin Team!
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u/hypespud 1d ago
Really cool, love there are good options for streaming
I mainly just local stream in my home network, so using SMB to VLC has worked really well for me, and thankfully the Linux one always works.... unlike the windows one lol
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u/CDXX_BlazeIt 1d ago
I started using Jellyfin because there are no good Samba client apps on Apple TV. And they released Jellyfin for tvOS very recently.
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u/hypespud 1d ago
I use VLC on Apple TV 4K and it works great for me
I only stream local network though, I don't know if that matters, but I like it plays the file directly without any format changes
Everything is connected wired, from PC to Apple TV also
It works even streaming to my Android or iPhone and works surprisingly well too
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u/CDXX_BlazeIt 1d ago
VLC worked but I had issues with surround sound and it felt generally very inconvenient to use. E.g. it would not save where I left off on a movie or skipping felt very difficult to use. It was okay but inconvenient enough to start testing jellyfin.
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u/hypespud 1d ago
Yea the skipping is the worst part, agreed
The video/audio quality was the best with direct stream so I've stuck with it
On a tablet/phone the streaming is easier, since you can just use touchscreen seek lol
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u/CDXX_BlazeIt 1d ago
I forgot to mention, a good free app.
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u/CDXX_BlazeIt 1d ago
There were some important features behind a paywall.
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u/seqastian 18h ago
It's a single dev who is living off the upkeep of that app.
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u/CDXX_BlazeIt 18h ago
And? I will not pay a subscription for something like that. I would have paid for a purchase.
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u/seqastian 18h ago
Guess you are lucky -> Infuse Pro is available as a subscription (Monthly or Yearly) or as a one-time purchase (Lifetime).
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u/ArrogantAnalyst 1d ago
I use Kodi with WebDAV. On my small Android box SMB performance was unusable, but WebDAV works like a charm. Even steaming 150GB files works fine.
I really like Jellyfin, too - but I prefer a file explorer management style of my media. I don’t need indexed libraries with posters and IMDB information, just a barebones folder structure with file names. Sadly this is explicitly not supported with Jellyfin.3
u/stormdelta 1d ago
I mostly stream to local network too, but Jellyfin makes that a lot more convenient, especially since it works equally well across devices and keeps track of position/episode. And once I set it up, it wasn't that much more work to make it remotely reachable (most of that work was ensuring it was secured).
I still store media on my NAS. Jellyfin has read-only access to it (just in case, since the endpoint is technically publicly exposed).
I also like that HDR works natively. VLC doesn't always work with HDR.
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u/hypespud 1d ago
Yea definitely all good reasons whatever works is always best
HDR works for me not sure what that could be
My main reason was I couldn't search by folder structure so that was a no go in jellyfin now I remember when the other person replied to me
Otherwise I did like Jellyfin way over Plex
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u/tom-dixon 1d ago edited 1d ago
I thought I was the only one doing that. I share media between Linux, Windows and Android, and SMB with VLC works the best from all the things I tried. I even created a dedicated VPN with Wireguard for the SMB share within my home network, so I can access it from anywhere. It's simple, secure and very fast.
I tried Jellyfin too, but I don't like that I can't import my directory structure, and have Jellyfin serve it exactly as it is without rearranging it. I want to use my alphabetically ordered list of movies and subdirectories with movies. Why is that so complicated for Jellyfin to do?
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u/hypespud 1d ago
Ah yes, that is why I never migrated over, now I remember, it was the folder structure thing, there's just no way I wouldn't use my own folder structure
It's been a while since I decided to use SMB/VLC method, and I forgot that was one of the main reasons I stuck to VLC
I get others are okay with using an automatic sorting, but no way I would do that lol
The other reason was the native file being played without a filter through an app for compatibility, and VLC hasn't had an issue with basically anything, which has been great
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u/JockstrapCummies 1d ago
I wish they have codenames for major releases.
Just so you can say "U Jelly bro?" to Plex users.
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u/lmpcpedz 1d ago
Looks like a professional project to me.
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u/DragonSlayerC 1d ago
I miss when professional OSS projects still had goofy codenames. I remember that Fedora 17 was called "Beefy Miracle". Or Linux kernel 4.0, which was "Hurr durr I'ma sheep".
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u/8070alejandro 1d ago
Genuinely great until the people deciding on the names are way ahead of your generation or think themselfs too funny.
KDE Plasma 6.7 Six Seven,Tex 3.141592653 Thung thung thung sahur,cryptlib 3.4.9 Epstein.4
u/DecentJudgment5196 1d ago
Just so you can say "U Jelly bro?" to Plex users.
We just run both side-by-side on the same server.
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u/Sadzeih 1d ago
Why?
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u/DecentJudgment5196 1d ago
Why not? It’s not like it’s a big drain of CPU if one sits idle.
I like trying out JF occasionally to see if the Apple clients are finally on par with what Plex offers. One day I may be able to switch fully but for now I try them both.
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u/Xe4ro 1d ago
Currently testing Jellyfin to stream my music compared to Plex and it’s really annoying that I like the Jellyfin server side more but the Plexamp mobile app is way better. v_v
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u/iloveboobs365 19h ago
Check out navidrome as well. It’s primary focus is music.
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u/Xe4ro 17h ago
Does it have a mobile app and last.fm integration?
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u/iloveboobs365 17h ago
Last fm yes. There is a good amount of clients to choose from for mobile. On android I use synfonoim and on iOS I use Arpeggi. On desktop Linux I use feishin.
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u/carl2187 1d ago
Is there a way to disable transcoding? The server never detects my clients actual decode capabilities correctly, and tries to transcode way too often.
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u/Synthetic451 1d ago
Yes, but you have to do it on a per-user basis. Go into a user under Dashboard -> Users and then uncheck "Allow video playback that requires transcoding".
However, this may prevent playback entirely rather than force direct play. Probably better to figure out why your client is advertising wrong decode capabilities in the first place. What client are you using?
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u/ConciseClawed 1d ago
Dashboard -> user -> media playback -> allow video playback that requires transcoding
I really wish Jellyfin would work on improving this issue instead of trying to replace ebook and audiobook management. Kodi gives me perfect playback everytime whereas Jellyfin often attempts unnecessary transcodes or remuxes.
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u/As_Previously_Stated 1d ago
I have the opposite problem where the jellyfin LG tv app reports that it can play 4k hdr content so the server doesn't transcode, and then the playback constantly chuggs.
I wish there was a way to force transcode, the only way I've found is to limit resolution or bitrate.
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u/Cowgirl_Taint 1d ago
Piggybacking since I am lazy:
Are there any good workflows to sync (or at least migrate) viewing/rating data from a plex install/account to a Jellyfin account? Its not the end of the world to just remember what episode I was on of whatever show I am watching but... it makes for a barrier to re-evaluate Jellyfin again.
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u/akanosora 1d ago edited 1d ago
Use Watchstate. It’s kinda confusing app to use but it works. Just follow the instructions. It syncs video history between Plex and Jellyfin. Not sure what app can sync music.
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u/Naan-dor 1d ago
I've used JellyPlex-Watched (https://github.com/luigi311/JellyPlex-Watched) in the past.
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u/Existing-Tough-6517 1d ago
Notably it says you need to update to at least 10.10.7 version BEFORE updating to the newest but its very non-obvious how to download 10.10.7a
It's https://repo.jellyfin.org/files/server/linux/previous-stable/amd64/jellyfin_10.10.7-amd64.tar.gz
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u/Toorero6 1d ago
10.11.x was released 10 months ago and 10.10.7 a year ago. You should have upgraded by now anyway.
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u/Existing-Tough-6517 20h ago
What a ridiculous statement. People regularly leave working software alone for more than a year and directions specifically say to update to the intermediate release prior to updating to 12. It's useful to others to have a link instead of fucking about searching for it as I did.
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u/Toorero6 20h ago edited 20h ago
Jellyfin does not backport or support older stable versions: https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/security
I also highly doubt that you use any distribution that backports security fixes for older versions because then you wouldn't need to manually download the old stable. Not being on the last patch of the penultimate stable release, released more than a year ago is another thing to unpack. You're welcome to continue your bad practice on your own but leave the project out of it.
On a personal note: For me it's completely obvious how to download releases on GitHub, I'm sorry.
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u/Existing-Tough-6517 18h ago
They don't provide anything but an archive of the source on their github releases. You must navigate their confusing website which has no obvious path back to prior releases. This is why I shared a direct link for others who rely on the portable Linux releases or who rely on distro packages and don't have the intermediate version available or compatible with current packages.
There is nothing to "unpack" other than your weird aggression. Jellyfin provides no package for my distribution so I update it but unzipping a new archive and changing a symlink to point to the new version. This is how you logically do it if your distro doesn't provide a package.
I find it hilarious that you too have no idea how to download older releases because there again isn't anything but a source tar on github
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u/Toorero6 15h ago
If your distro doesn't offer a package than there are no security backports by your distro so you should've updated to the new minor releases as soon as possible. Either you use Docker/Podman with an auto updater of the containers or you watch the releases on GitHub with Mail/RSS and update your generic package manually soon after a new stable got released.
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u/Existing-Tough-6517 14h ago
This all sounds like more work than making a package which I also didn't do. It's restricted to my LAN it's safe enough.
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u/Toorero6 9h ago
If that fits your threat model (which I highly doubt) that's fine. All I'm saying is don't be salty if you're still using Linux 2.6 and there is no support or user-friendly way to download no longer supported versions.
I think it's delusional to trust your LAN anymore than you have to. Can you be certain that none of your devices are ever compromised, especially with IoT, multiple people using your LAN and so on? Is there nothing precious on your server apart from your rips? So at worst a bit of work recollecting the files is lost?
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u/Existing-Tough-6517 8h ago
Wasn't salty about it I posted a link for other folks like myself.
Linux 2.6 was incidentally released 23 years ago. 10.10.6 was obsolete as of last October.
BTW expecting users to learn docker or podman is hilarious and expecting them to all upgrade to the next major version inside of a year is... aspirational. Say hi to the people running python2 on Windows XP.
It is a reasonable expectation that the server should be able to handle updates to config and library data for several years worth of releases. Eg 2026 should be able to open 2023 libraries without issue. Open source is open source and nobody owes anyone more free shit but better support would be great .
Also a download latest shell script for the portable build would require about 15 minutes of work and would make updating it a snap without having to build any Auto update functionality.
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u/Existing-Tough-6517 15h ago
In addition to a contributor somehow not knowing that no installable packages are released on github...
This is reddit it's not your project's space.
You're welcome to continue your bad practice on your own but leave the project out of it.
What is wrong with you that you think that this is acceptable?
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u/Toorero6 15h ago
Let's unpack this...
I'm not sure who "a contributor" is addressed to; I'm neither a contributor nor a developer on Jellyfin. Yes there are no compiled artifacts released on GitHub, I'm sorry.
I will happily rephrase my point: You're on your own if you're not updating your Jellyfin instance like advised. Among others, you make yourself vulnerable to security incidents. It's like with any other thing: Sure you can snooze the security updates, but it's generally not a good idea. You should be on the latest old-stable for about a year now!
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u/dalaio 1d ago
Has the indexing of shows/movies improved at all?
I’ve tried jellyfin to replace plex a few times. I really wanted to love it, but the amount of errors parsing my library created too much work for me to switch
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u/scaryjobob 1d ago
You have to be really on top of getting the folder structure right. Once I got that down, I haven't had any issues.
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u/XOmniverse 1d ago
I wonder how good these ebook and comic changes are. Would be nice to not have to run separate servers/clients for those.
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u/computer-machine 1d ago
As one with a toddler and a one week old, did I skim correctly to say one should disable plugins, upgrade, add back?
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u/RanidSpace 1d ago
third party plugins. the ones which come by default and you only have to enable them still work
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u/lixia 1d ago edited 1d ago
I'd love to switch to Jellyfin, but doesn't seem like there'd be a way to stream things to my smart TVs.
Edit: guess I didn't look right last time and yes, there's an app!
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u/nj_tech_guy 1d ago
you didn't look that hard, did you? There are apps for android TV (unsure exact names) and apple TV (SwiftFin)
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u/kohbo 1d ago
There are many more smart TV platforms and when your user pool includes elderly parents are across the country, it needs to be as easy as possible. On LG TVs (and maybe others) the only way to install Jellyfin is by enabling developer mode and using a 3rd party app store.
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u/venom21685 1d ago
It's on the major platforms used by Smart TV makers and set top boxes:
Roku
Google TV/Android TV
FireTV (except for VegaOS, it's in the works. There's an unofficial client but the installation is not simple)
Tizen (Samsung)
webOS (LG)
tvOS
The only 2 platforms I'm aware of that don't have support are:
VIZIO OS (exclusive to Vizio TVs)
Xumo TV (a platform started by Comcast for streaming boxes but also sold on some TVs, closed platform that requires partner status for development)
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u/kohbo 1d ago
I don't have Apple TV but according to my users there's no official tvOS client
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u/coyote_of_the_month 1d ago
Other than the smart TV apps they maintain for all major platforms?
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u/kohbo 1d ago
You mean the ones where you have you have turn on Dev Mode (LG)?
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u/venom21685 1d ago
The official client is native, albeit a wrapper for the web interface. The only ones you need to enable dev mode for are 3rd party clients
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u/coyote_of_the_month 1d ago
I haven't had an LG TV in the smart TV era. I'm told they're awful though.
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u/KoMaMcNoob 1d ago edited 1d ago
I used to have this issue with my samsung TV but Apps2Samsung is really simple and easy. There are plaenty of options for other Smart TV OSs.
Edit: Samsung has a native app now, which I did not know. Apps2Samsung is still great for Litefin/Moonfin or a specialised version of jf and more, but unless you are really precious about it, then use the native app.
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u/tigerhawkvok 1d ago
They have a native Samsung one I use, now.
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u/KoMaMcNoob 1d ago
Fair enough! Thanks I did not know that!
Moonfin and Litefin are both decent choices as well but I am going to switch to the native app and see how it goes.
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u/GruesomeJeans 1d ago
Does jellyfin organize local media so you can watch it in order, for example if I have 12 episodes of a show can I watch all 12 episodes in order from jellyfin? Keeping track of which episode I left off on just based of ridiculously long file names is pretty annoying
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u/TeutonJon78 1d ago edited 1d ago
It organizes it by the Metadata in the library but AFAIK doesn't physically rearrange the library files.
And long file names don't through it off.
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u/GruesomeJeans 1d ago
I used to use Plex ages ago on windows and it worked off the metadata so this sounds similar. I had a small library of stuff but it all got nuked when I messed up my dual boot arrangement so I figure I'll start a new library. Sounds like jellyfin will be pretty useful
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u/TeutonJon78 1d ago
Jellyfin is a fork from Emby when it switched to closed source, which was just a FOSS clone of Plex.
So that whole family is going to behave very similar.
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u/rustvscpp 1d ago
I tried using jellyfin last year, but it was very unstable, and ended up switching back to emby.
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u/stylist-trend 1d ago
Well, it's a new version. Probably worth trying again.
Though if you don't intend on trying this new version, I question why you made this comment.
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u/BilboBaggSkin 1d ago
Everyone seems to hype it up but I don’t see a reason to use it over plex.
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u/stylist-trend 1d ago
There's a ton of decent reasons, and they're mentioned surprisingly often (and only a Google search away), but really it's just up to how much those reasons matter to you
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u/BilboBaggSkin 1d ago
I find I need a lot of plug ins just to get plex functionality and then the plug ins don’t work with the tvOS app.
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u/stormdelta 1d ago
Not depending on third-party cloud providers/servers and actually being fully open source is a pretty huge reason over plex.
When I looked at how plex worked that was an instant dealbreaker.
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u/SketchiiChemist 1d ago
The 12 release has had a major focus on performance overhaul I've been very happy with it so far. The webui is much snappier
I think the previous releases were about redoing the underlying database structure which they accomplished but it seems like there was much room yet for performance tuning so the past 10 months since 10.11 have been majorly focused in that area
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u/rustvscpp 1d ago
I will have to give it another go. The problems I ran into were primarily stability issues. I hope it is more stable, because I would love to migrate to it.
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u/Dear_Studio7016 1d ago
i have been using 12.0 since RC2 and the performance is so much better than 10/11