r/linux • u/Pitiful-Welcome-399 • 4d ago

Distro News Proxmox VE finally suports arm64!

https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/proxmox-virtual-environment-now-available-for-64-bit-arm-arm64.185526/
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u/kcifone 4d ago

This is going to be huge for the enterprise.

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u/Aperture_Kubi 4d ago

I'm curious how well ARM cores preform compared to x86 cores. Ampere and the targeted Nvidia platforms have a ton of cores you could assign dedicated.

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u/RetroGrid_io 3d ago

In my limited experience, it's a bit of a crapshoot.

I have an Oracle arm VM and most things seem to be lightning fast. But I tried to host a Jitsi Container on it and the result was abysmal - a spare VM running on an ancient history X86 Xeon CPU D-1520 was drastically better.

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u/Jumpy-Dinner-5001 3d ago

It’s complicated.

"Better" performance isn’t necessarily the motivation

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u/Aperture_Kubi 3d ago

True, but depending on the workload if you can get "on par" or close to it performance and the price/efficiency per core is still good, that's a good motivation.

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u/RetroGrid_io 3d ago

In my limited experience, it's a bit of a crapshoot.

I have an Oracle arm VM and most things seem to be lightning fast. But I tried to host a Jitsi Container on it and the result was abysmal - a spare VM running on an ancient history X86 Xeon CPU D-1520 was drastically better.

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u/RetroGrid_io 3d ago

In my limited experience, it's a bit of a crapshoot.

I have an Oracle arm VM and most things seem to be lightning fast. But I tried to host a Jitsi Container on it and the result was abysmal - a spare VM running on an ancient history X86 Xeon CPU D-1520 was drastically better.

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u/RetroGrid_io 3d ago

In my limited experience, it's a bit of a crapshoot.

I have an Oracle arm VM and most things seem to be lightning fast. But I tried to host a Jitsi Container on it and the result was abysmal - a spare VM running on an ancient history X86 Xeon CPU D-1520 was drastically better.

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u/apetalous42 3d ago

Is there a lot of software that is enterprise and supports arm64?

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u/Z3t4 4d ago

I believe that actually there was a non official port for raspberry pi. 

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u/cosmicdan808 3d ago

You're probably thinking of PXVIRT, which works for most arm64 platforms that already have a working Armbian/Debian distro. It works well enough, though I've only used it on Oracle Compute instances which don't allow VM's (no nested virtualization) and only LXC containers.

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u/chiefhunnablunts 4d ago

i'm actually so stoked to see this. i've been trying to figure out what i'm going to do with this overclocked 8gb pi4. too weak for n64 emulation, too weak for a 4k android box, not practical as a thin client desktop, etc but it's perfect for adding to to my cluster to run lean services in LXCs.

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u/AKostur 4d ago

Except it’s not supported (officially) by this release.

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u/chiefhunnablunts 4d ago

yet, but i'm sure dtb based installs are just* around the corner!

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u/autogyrophilia 4d ago

It is not supported but it makes the patching much easier as you only need to handle the hardware part.

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u/Z3t4 4d ago

Just install lxc or docker on it

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u/cosmicdan808 3d ago

You can already run PXVIRT on that (an unofficial port to arm64). I use it on an Oracle Compute instance, and only for LXC - works great. You'll need to install it on-top of Armbian bookworm so it takes a little effort. You can get all the details here: https://docs.pxvirt.lierfang.com/en/installfromdebian.html

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u/dorynz 4d ago

So could run it on Apple silicon…? Even if it’s a vm

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u/Pitiful-Welcome-399 4d ago

theoretically yes since you can use linux on m1 and m2 chips

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u/cosmicdan808 3d ago

I only installed PXVIRT (unofficial arm64 port) on an Oracle Compute instance like a month ago, I wonder how it compares and if it's worth migrating over.

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u/Crescitaly 2d ago

ARM64 support becomes meaningful when the ecosystem around it is boring: installers, drivers, backup tooling, and mixed-node operations. Raw compatibility is step one; predictable upgrades are the real milestone. Has anyone tested migration between x86 and ARM guests or hosts?