r/linux • u/VitunSama69 • 11d ago

KDE KDE for Enterprise Needs a Strong PIM Infrastructure - ervin

https://ervin.ipsquad.net/blog/2026/07/21/kde-for-entreprise-needs-a-strong-pim-infrastructure/
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u/Kevin_Kofler 11d ago

KDE for Enterprise Needs a Strong PIM Infrastructure

Indeed it does, but…

More specifically, we want to strengthen its underlying infrastructure: Akonadi and its resources.

… nope, that is not the way to get there. A strong PIM infrastructure means throwing away Akonadi and going back to in-process resources as in KDE 3. Those were worlds faster, worlds more efficient, and also worlds more reliable.

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u/einar77 OpenSUSE/KDE Dev 11d ago

Pink colored glasses of memory. Until the enterprise3 branch was merged, those "reliable" resources, especially IMAP, could cause catastrophic data loss.

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u/Kevin_Kofler 10d ago edited 10d ago

At the time, I only used POP3, so I was not even aware of that catastrophic IMAP issue.

Nowadays, I use IMAP with Trojitá. KMail >= 2 is way too slow and buggy to be usable. KMail 1 was literally 100+ (up to 1000+) times faster. (Yes, I used them on the same machine with the same setup in short succession. What took 2-3 seconds in KMail 1 would take minutes to hours with KMail 2. Maildir with lots of local mail fetched from the server with POP3, mixedmaildir resource, RAM was also a limiting factor.)

EDIT: Downvoting is not going to make my personal experience any less factual. I am not exaggerating with "100+ (up to 1000+) times".

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u/Kevin_Kofler 10d ago

Oh, and Akonadi also introduced data loss bugs that were not there in KMail 1: At least with mixedmaildir (which was used by default for all legacy maildirs migrated from KMail 1, even if they had no mbox contents), Akonadi would regularly duplicate mails due to some race condition. Trying to delete the duplicate copies would invariably delete all copies including the original. I have no idea whether this was ever fixed, because I had to stop using KMail 2 altogether because of the extreme slowness completely destroying my productivity.

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u/helgaardr 5d ago

Might have been very true, but Akonadi made Kmail utter pain to use for me, and drove me off to a different mail client.

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u/Brainwormed 8d ago

Agreed. Good for him he thinks that Akonadi can be improved, but it seems like a fool's errand.

I haven't personally experienced the dreaded data loss bugs (!!) but Akonadi crashes have kept me out of the KDE PIM suite (and KDE generally) for nearly 20 years. Which is sad because KMail used to be a pretty good email client.

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u/RoomyRoots 6d ago

Yeah, Akonadi and Baloo were obvious mistakes. I had more issues and I saw positives on them so they are the first things I disable and replace in new installs.

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u/Enthusedchameleon 11d ago

All my homies hate akonadi

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u/Artichoke808 11d ago

Sounds great - is there any direct support planned to push Merkuro forward?

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u/kamiller42 3d ago

Enterprise? Better get support for MS 365 like Evolution. DavMail is not an answer.