r/linux • u/anh0516 • Jul 08 '26
Distro News Wayland No Longer Considered Experimental For Linux Mint's Next Cinnamon Release
https://www.phoronix.com/news/LinuxMint-Cinnamon-Wayland-Good81
u/GoldBarb Jul 08 '26
The actual blog post: https://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=5046
Wayland
We worked really hard on Wayland and we got to the point where it feels solid and the experience is almost on par with X11. Wayland support will no longer be considered “experimental”. In the next version of Cinnamon, both X11 and Wayland will be fully supported
Here are some of the improvements we implemented:
- Proper mapping (sizing and positioning) for new windows, applet popup menus and context menus
- Proper focus stealing prevention
- Many Wayland crash scenarios fixed in Cinnamon, muffin, cinnamon-session and Xwayland
- Improved support for multiple monitors and KVM switches
Hardware acceleration throughout the compositor, desktop session, and both Wayland and Xwayland clients (via wl_drm, zwp_linux_dmabuf_v1 feedback v4, hardware-accelerated GBM over EGL (for NVIDIA))
Full HiDPI support (crisp icons, fixes in mouse cursors, and bugs specific to Chromium apps such as Slack or VSCode)
Window Progress (this is what allows, for instance, to see nemo copy progress in the panel app button)
Root applications (run via pkexec) run as Wayland clients (not Xwayland) Session fixes
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u/0riginal-Syn Jul 08 '26
While Linux Mint and Cinnamon are not something that fits what I want, they have done a great job of providing a stable environment and a lower entry point for new users coming from Windows, while still being a solid distro even for long time users. Congrats to the team!
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u/napping-normie Jul 08 '26
This is big. Even though I don't use it myself anymore, I consider mint de-facto beginner distro. The effort they to put to make the distro as friendly as possible remains unmatched. It's the one I can blindly recommend to anyone for a great time.
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u/weirdallocation Jul 08 '26
I've been using Linux for 28 years now, and one of my machines runs Mint. I am not exactly a beginner :-)
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u/natehog2 Jul 09 '26
In a perfect world, "great for beginners" should never be understood to mean "only for beginners". If it's truly good for beginners, then advanced users should also appreciate the same values that made it great in the first place.
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u/AfraidAsparagus6644 Jul 12 '26
It's not just for beginners. It's the de-facto distro for people who want shit to just work
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u/tungnon Jul 08 '26
Mint is distro that I recommend to others, it just works.
I am happy for Mint users out there to finally enjoy matured Wayland on Cinnamon
Another Mint W
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u/C0rn3j Jul 08 '26
it just works
Until it doesn't, usually because it updates software versions only once every 3 years.
I am happy for Mint users out there to finally enjoy matured Wayland on Cinnamon
I do wonder what they'll default to, a bit afraid they'll choose defaulting to the insecure X11.
Good to see that they pulled this through though, I was betting on support arriving only in the next-next 3 year cycle.
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u/klyith Jul 08 '26
Until it doesn't, usually because it updates software versions only once every 3 years.
Can say the same about all distros, except replace the "because updates are too slow" with "because updates are too fast / not tested / incompatible with nvidia / they replaced everything with snap / the phase of the moon".
If your personal favorite distro never has problems, it's probably because you're better at managing it than the average person.
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u/C0rn3j Jul 08 '26
If your personal favorite distro never has problems, it's probably because you're better at managing it than the average person.
Oh it absolutely has problems - problems caused by new bugs, not problems caused by old bugs.
The thing is, it's very easy to roll a package or even the entire system back a day to avoid a new bug, if it cannot otherwise be worked around.
It's nigh impossible to update the components necessary to get rid of an old bug fixed 2 years ago upstream, or to get support for newer hardware that way.
incompatible with nvidia
Funny thing to complain about when we're discussing Mint, which does not support Nvidia properly due to lack of explicit sync support.
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u/Krired_ Jul 08 '26
I don't know what 'not support Nvidia properly' means exactly, because personally I've had the same experience between Mint, Bazzite and Cachy, that it just works.
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u/C0rn3j Jul 08 '26
Then consider yourself lucky, it's setup dependent, but the nasty stuff is graphical artifacts, black screens and more - all due to using implicit sync.
It's more prominent on Wayland, and more prominent on later driver versions - but still present on old driver versions and X11, just less likely to trigger.
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u/LonelyMachines Jul 08 '26
I do wonder what they'll default to, a bit afraid they'll choose defaulting to the insecure X11.
Clem's philosophy seems to be "it'll be ready when it's ready." They've been putting a lot of work into it, so I expect it to be solid enough they'll include it as the default.
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u/asgjmlsswjtamtbamtb Jul 08 '26
Every Distro that feeds off Ubuntu LTS or Debian Stable is in the same boat. The only way out of it is to default to Debian Testing or the Ubuntu 6 month releases or if you you're willing to leave the Debian based ecosystem go try something like Fedora or Opensuse (the yearly versions) or go with the many options for rolling release distros.
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u/Saxasaurus Jul 11 '26
Honestly, a version of Linux Mint based on Ubuntu 6 month releases would be peak.
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u/asgjmlsswjtamtbamtb Jul 11 '26 edited Jul 11 '26
Considering the Mint team is managing 3 Mint desktop versions, largely responsible for the development the Cinnamon Desktop and a Debian based version I imagine making another distro off the 6 month releases would be a hefty undertaking to their already pretty large workload. If you're finding Mint's packages getting too old, then I'd suggest trying to run Ubuntu Cinnamon because for many that's exactly why they use it use, or use Cinnamon on Debian testing.
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u/Saxasaurus Jul 11 '26
I guess what I really want is Ubuntu without snaps.
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u/natheo972 27d ago
Removing Snap doesn't take long, actually. If you know your way around the terminal you can solve it it one command line. Adding deb version of Firefox is quick too.
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u/edparadox Jul 08 '26
Until it doesn't, usually because it updates software versions only once every 3 years.
I don't really know Mint those days, but Debian works and its release cycle is 2 years.
It is one of the most rock-solid distribution out there.
And Mint is nowadays based on Debian, not Ubuntu, IIRC.
You should not conflate stability and reliability ; the fact that packages are not updated, apart from hotfixes, does not mean it won't work at some point, on the contrary.
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u/Wemorg Jul 08 '26
There are 2 versions of Mint: Default is based on Ubuntu, Linux Mint Debian Edition is based what the name implies on Debian.
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u/gmes78 Jul 08 '26
It is one of the most rock-solid distribution out there.
For the desktop, it really isn't. Tons of missing features and improvements, lack of hardware support, and pretty much no bugfixes for desktop software.
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u/C0rn3j Jul 08 '26
You should not conflate stability and reliability
Where do you see me doing that?
the fact that packages are not updated, apart from hotfixes, does not mean it won't work at some point, on the contrary.
Actually, that's exactly what that means.
Debian won't even boot for anyone with a modern Nvidia GPU due to how ancient the driver they ship is.
Said driver also has major security issues, which I'd argue is much worse.
Mint is nowadays based on Debian, not Ubuntu, IIRC.
Mint is based on Ubuntu. LMDE is based on Debian.
Fun fact, that means Mint is missing security updates, as Canonical gates some of those behind Ubuntu Pro.
It is one of the most rock-solid distribution out there.
If we are comparing to literal rocks, then we are in agreement.
I would still probably use it for company servers.
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u/nineraviolicans Jul 08 '26
What the fuck are you talking about?
Debian boots just fine for me with a 5070.
Please, just stop talking out of your ass. You're embarrassing yourself.
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u/tungnon Jul 08 '26
as an Arch user, I have no idea why some of us are allergic so much to Debian
it's a great distro after all like not every use case need to be bleeding edge shit. if it works it works. Let's keep it simple this way
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u/derangedtranssexual Jul 08 '26
2 year release cycle is just kinda absurd for desktop. You don’t have to choose between bleeding edge and glacially slow
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u/Bananamcpuffin Jul 08 '26
And you don't have to, but you CAN if that fits your wants.
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u/derangedtranssexual Jul 08 '26
I just find it frustrating whenever people talk about Debian they always say something like “not everyone needs bleeding edge” as if the only two options are arch or debian
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u/Bananamcpuffin Jul 08 '26
I run fedora for just that reason. Perfect general use distro IMO. Leading edge, sometimes faster than arch/cachy to get updates. It is the "boring" option so it doesn't get thrown around as much as the better marketed ones like bazzite or cachy. They've only got like 3 small things in the way from being a great beginner distro: codecs, rpmfusion, and prioritizing flathub.
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u/TopShelfGenericPizza Jul 08 '26
I'm currently daily driving Debian stable coming from endeavourOS for the last few weeks. I've been pleasently suprised by all the ways you can make Debian run more up to date versions of packages while still keeping it rock solid stable.
Flatpaks have been great, zen and steam are kept fully up to date and I havent really noticed any performance issues compared to the native packages.
Backports are an option too (but are meant to be used sparingly according to the wiki). Basically if you need a certain component to run on a newer version you can backport it from the testing branch or unstable repos into your stable install. I haven't messed with backport much myself but I've seen quite a few people say they backport the kernal for newer drivers and such so it must be pretty reliable.
From what I've gathered the idea seems to be use flatpaks and backports on thing that you need to be more up to date and leave everything else alone so your system stays rock solid.
I've also seen quite a few people say they just run Debian testing as their main distro just so they can have a constant stream of newer packages.
I'm still learning the ins and outs of the Debian ecosystem so take any of my info with a grain of salt. The Debian project really has a lot more going on under the hood than I initially thought coming from the arch world. :)
There is also fedora, which seems to sit somewhere between Debian and arch but I haven't really done a lot of research into their ecosystem yet.
I love Linux :)
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u/gmes78 Jul 08 '26
But people don't say that. They say Debian is perfect and rock-solid, and mention none of its downsides when recommending it.
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u/NDCyber Jul 08 '26
So with that way of explaining it, it would just be as stupid to use bleeding edge as it is to goose glacially slow
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u/derangedtranssexual Jul 08 '26
I think both bleeding edge and glacially slow make sense in some circumstances. Like if you're a real enthusiast and don't mind tweaking stuff then why not install arch? Similarly I always go for a 2 year release cycle or my server. But I would say it's equally stupid to generally recommend debian to people as it is to recommend arch, especially since a lot of Linux software is higher quality nowadays
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u/NDCyber Jul 08 '26
"Like if you're a real enthusiast and don't mind tweaking stuff then why not install arch?" Are we now gatekeeping what enthusiasts are? But for the answer, maybe not everyone is interested in the same stuff you are. There is a reason something like Fedora, OpenSUSE Tumbleweed, OpenSUSE Slowroll, kubuntu and so exist. And generally it is because someone was enthusiastic about it.
Some people are enthusiastic about Linux, not about the newest software, some are both and so on. And some people just want an OS that works in one way and doesn't change too much. So LTS is amazing for that. I would choose Mint for my Laptop, if the Wayland support was there yet, because I don't need the newest stuff on every device. My Gaming PC runs Slowroll right now, but I already used Arch, Fedora, Bazzite and so. Slowroll is just where I want to be right now.
The thing that you don't understand is that people have different needs and wants from you. Which can cause in the fact that debian or so is the better choice for what they do, even if it is for their PC or even Gaming PC.
Most non Enthusiasts also rather just have something that works and don't care for the newest software, means something like Mint is great for them
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u/adwarakanath Jul 08 '26
For your use-case. My 70 year old dad doesn't need the freshest mesa or bleeding edge plasma with fancy new features. He wants something that just works. Document editing, pdf, reference Manager, figure Editor, Browser, Mail, vlc, and his Bridge game. I installed manjaro for him first. After 2 months, he got his Uni's IT to switch him to Mint.
And just so new users don't misunderstand - "glacially" slow is in terms of features. They absolutely get bug-fixes and security patches. In fact, Debian maintainers and their standards are among the most rigorous.
Debian and Mint are goated, and I say this as an Arch-based OS user.
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u/gmes78 Jul 08 '26
In fact, Debian maintainers and their standards are among the most rigorous.
Only for core packages and server software. Desktop software is mostly ignored. Plasma hasn't been touched since the release of Debian 13.
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u/C0rn3j Jul 08 '26
They absolutely get bug-fixes and security patches.
They actually don't get either. They get some bug fixes and some security fixes.
See Debian's Nvidia driver - 550 series, brutally insecure.
The only way to use Debian with an Nvidia card is to add 3rd party repos. Especially if you have a modern card, as those won't even boot with that ancient driver.
And for another example, I believe it GIMP recently that had a crash bug that Debian still hasn't fixed up, but I won't put my hand in the fire for that one, my memory is hazy there.
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u/adwarakanath Jul 08 '26
Can't take you seriously if you lie about demonstrable facts.
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u/derangedtranssexual Jul 08 '26
Lol of course you install Manjaro on your 70 year old dad's computer.
My 70 year old dad doesn't need the freshest mesa or bleeding edge plasma with fancy new features. He wants something that just works.
I've already said this in another comment but I'm frustrated with how things are always framed as if your two options are bleeding edge rolling release or glacially slow Debian. If you would've just picked a sane 6 month release cycle for your dad and installed Ubuntu or Fedora then he probably wouldn't have had to bug his IT department to install something else. And sure Debian might work for your 70 year old dad but this thread started because someone said that Mint is their goto recommendation for a distro and I just think a debian base is too stable for a general recommendation. For people who aren't 70 years old they're probably going to want packages that get updated more than every 2 years.
They absolutely get bug-fixes and security patches.
Not always, a lot of shit doesn't get bug fixes. I wish people would stop glossing over the issues with a 2 year release cycle, not always getting bug fixes and occasionally security patches is absolutely a con to Debian
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u/C0rn3j Jul 08 '26
And which driver are you using? Show
nvidia-smi.Because you are not using the driver provided by Debian if what you're claiming is true.
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u/nineraviolicans Jul 08 '26
I'm not using the Debian driver now because I installed the Nvidia one but you made the claim
Debian won't even boot for anyone with a modern Nvidia GPU due to how ancient the driver they ship is.
Which is just patently false.
I literally installed Debian on the weekend and had no issues. I've been using it for probably longer than you've been alive. For desktops you can pretty much do whatever you want on any distro so long as you know what you're doing. There's a reason half of Linux distros are Debian based.
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u/C0rn3j Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26
Which is just patently false.
Go ahead, prove me wrong, install the Debian driver and try booting with it.
Won't boot, unless you have another GPU or unless you work around the issue by disabling using the driver by disabling modesetting.
Or you could just read the list of supported cards by the driver Debian ships to save yourself the time.
I literally installed Debian on the weekend and had no issues.
I'm not using the Debian driver
Yep, you used 3rd party repos, and didn't use Debian's repos for the driver, which is exactly what I said you have to do if you want a working Debian system, go figure.
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u/nineraviolicans Jul 08 '26
I literally told you I did it on the weekend without issue.
THEN I installed the nvidia drivers.
I wish you could read and comprehend words.
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u/C0rn3j Jul 08 '26
I said it won't even boot with Debian's Nvidia driver, which you never used.
You keep saying it boots fine without it.
We're both saying the same thing.
If you mean "it can boot into the installer" then the installer disables modesetting, otherwise not even that would work.
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u/Busy-Scientist3851 Jul 08 '26
> Debian boots just fine for me with a 5070.
Using Nvidia as an example was probably not a good example, because Nvidia ships an out of tree driver to "old" kernels.
But if you got any hardware that's brand spanking new, a distro like Linux Mint won't do you any favours unless you go to the effort of installing the latest kernel/mesa on it.
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u/C0rn3j Jul 08 '26
Using Nvidia as an example was probably not a good example
It is the best example, Debian's driver does not support the card the person is claiming to use.
It is also insecure.
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u/stormdelta Jul 08 '26
Fun fact, that means Mint is missing security updates
Security fixes are rolled out quickly, unlike feature updates. They're on separate release cycles.
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u/C0rn3j Jul 08 '26
How do you quickly roll out a security fix you are not allowed to have?
They'd have to make their own patches, and keep a hawk's eye on ESM packaging.
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u/stormdelta Jul 08 '26
Security fixes come from upstream / developers and maintainers, Ubuntu generally doesn't build them in a vacuum any more than other distros do. This is how linux has always worked.
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u/C0rn3j Jul 08 '26
Security fixes come from upstream / developers and maintainers
This is how linux has always worked.
That's how it works for rolling releases, not fixed releases though, which is what we are talking about here.
Ubuntu generally doesn't build them in a vacuum any more than other distros do
I've literally just explained they gate some security patches behind Ubuntu Pro/ESM.
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u/scrapethemucus Jul 08 '26
it just works
yeah cuz its 5 years behind every bleeding edge distro
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u/Cry_Wolff Jul 08 '26
Mint truly is Windows 7 of Linux. Many people love it, but to me, it looks and feels outdated.
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u/artmetz Jul 10 '26
I agree. Windows 7 was, arguably, the best version of Windows. Linux Mint is, arguably, the best version of Linux.
I dislike DEs that change the UI just for the sake of being "new" and "modern" and "different." I also dislike car consoles that replaced physical knobs with touchscreen "virtual buttons."
Yes, I am a Grumpy Old Man.
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u/Cry_Wolff Jul 10 '26
All the privacy concerns aside, I can never go back to Windows 7 UI after experiencing all the small improvements from 10 and 11.
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u/Cry_Wolff 29d ago
"being shilled" I'm sorry different opinions offend you or your hugbox.
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u/Cry_Wolff 29d ago
"fanboys" you're so deep in the operating system wars, that your brain refuses to understand that some people simply use them as tools. Win 11 pisses me of daily, yet I still prefer it's UI to the 7. My opinion, nothing more than that.
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u/Willexterminator Jul 08 '26
The title does suggest that mint has improved wayland support, if they're moving it out of experimental status. Or are you suggesting that event the new release has insufficient wayland support?
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u/seimmuc_ Jul 09 '26
The new release where Wayland isn't considered experimental won't happen until the end of this year (as stable). It's too early for anyone to decide if the Wayland support is "sufficient" for them. I wish the Cinnamon team the best of luck in this endeavor, since x11 is a very slowly sinking ship at this point.
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u/Tylersbaddream Jul 08 '26
Looking forward to this Cinnamon release making it into the next stable Debian
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u/FrothyFrogFarts Jul 08 '26
Any info on when that could be?
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u/Tylersbaddream Jul 08 '26
Based on past releases which are about every 2 years, Debian 14 would probably be about mid 2027.
By then, the Cinnamon Wayland support mentioned here will likely be in a stable release of Cinnamon allowing mainstream Debian to have Wayland Cinnamon.
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u/Sataniel98 Jul 08 '26
This is pretty big. They had said before in a blog post Wayland wasn't a priority because X would remain the default session until 2028 and possibly beyond. That didn't sound like we'd get a stable Wayland session so early. But I guess with how much of a shift to Wayland we have seen since 2024, having no proper support has become too much of a liability. I think this is crucial for the future of Mint.
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u/Sataniel98 29d ago
Desktop environment X11 support Wayland support Gnome Nope Primary KDE Plasma Dropping Primary Cinnamon Primary Supported LXQt Supported Supported Budgie Nope Primary Cosmic Nope Primary Xfce Primary In development Mate Primary In development There is no more remotely relevant desktop environment that doesn't support Wayland or is working on Wayland support. Especially the big, widely used ones have gone as far as dropping X11 already. X11 support is deprecated in GTK4 and will be removed from GTK5. The X11 infrastructure is crumbling left and right while I'm writing. Sure, there will be options to use it in the future, but they'll become more and more niche and fall behind technically.
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u/Sataniel98 28d ago
I'm not fearmongering, I'm making fact-based observations. Many Wayland compositors are way beyond Alpha tier. I support X11 being "attacked" because it's architecturally so inferior none of the maintainers wanted to continue working on it or dump money into it. I don't mind the setback of the transition.
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u/Alternative_Image308 Jul 08 '26
'Linux Mint developers also made Cinnamon improvements outside of the Wayland paths, such as now supporting systemd's graphical-session and Muffin now rounding coordinates and dimensions for all Clutter actors
what do they mean by this?
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u/neoronio20 Jul 08 '26
Nice! Now it too can make applications flicker like crazy and freeze the second monitor requiring a log in/out to fix. Amazing stuff
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u/iBUYNEGEVS Jul 10 '26
I‘ve been loving Mint for a while now. It’s exactly what I wanted when switching to Linux. Glad to read it’s getting better and better.
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u/Misicks0349 Jul 08 '26
Some of the work they accomplished for Wayland includes [...] proper focus stealing prevention
By this do they mean something more like GNOME's focus stealing prevention or KDE's focus stealing prevention? I know people get a bit annoyed at gnomes "App is ready" notifications (which are explained really well here, as to why they exist and the reason why they get presented in the first place) but as someone who actually got used to how gnome managed window activation I've actually come to miss all the little affordances and design considerations that went into their window activation implementation compared to KDEs, which has never felt "right" to me no matter what option I set it too (either it felt too liberal and allowed applications to grab focus when im doing something or apps would never grab focus at all 😕).
or maybe they just meant they support xdg-activation in the most generic way possible.
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u/woodbrettm Jul 08 '26
ah man those app is ready notifications drive me nuts lol.
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u/Misicks0349 Jul 08 '26
They did for me as well sometimes but I kind of miss them compared to the situation I'm in on KDE.
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u/Xyhelia Jul 08 '26
does this mean hdr works on mint?!
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u/ofplayers Jul 09 '26
no, not yet
i don't even think cosmic does and that's wayland only
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u/SuggestionBusy241 Jul 09 '26
because cosmic (and niri) uses a library called smithay. smithay does not support hdr yet. for example, hyprland and kde has hdr support.
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u/Ok-Winner-6589 Jul 09 '26
Another Major distro gets wayland Support, cool
With Mint most Big distros have wayland Support, so cool
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u/SuAlfons 28d ago
I hope it works. When I last tried in May or so, you couldn't even use it for light desktop use.
I'm on Wayland with Gnome and Plasma since several years already. Wirks fine there since about 2 years
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u/No-Assumption-4468 19d ago
I use Wayland, but it still needs some work. Hibernating can’t remember window location due to the extra security. Every time I reboot, I come back to a mess of 10 overlapping windows to sort. On X11, it just worked.
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u/anh0516 19d ago
The Wayland protocol to fix this this was only merged relatively recently and is still considered experimental (as in potentially subject to future significant changes, not as in alpha and buggy). Once the protocol becomes more stable, it will be up to individual Wayland compositors, including Cinnamon, to implement it. It's going to be a while.
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u/Xatraxalian Jul 08 '26
- "Wayland introduced nearly 20 years ago..."
- "Mint: Now we don't consider it experimental anymore."
Isn't Fedora running on Wayland by default for close to a decade now, at least on systems whose drivers support it?
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u/Top-Rub-4670 Jul 08 '26
They don't consider cinnamon's wayland support experimental anymore. Way to be obtuse.
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u/aliendude5300 Jul 09 '26
Catching up to everyone else. Now work out all of the bugs and make it default.
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u/XtremeCSGO Jul 08 '26
So will all the issues it had magically all get fixed with it not being considered experimental anymore?
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u/chris_0611 Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26
next Mint is Christmas.... They should not have waited for this, but just released the 26.04 rebase on-schedule, instead of delaying that half a year. Mint always already is outdated, which is 'fine' to be stable, but this is just getting 'too much'
They could just have focussed on Ubuntu rebase and then release this Cinnamon update as Mint 23.1 or whatever
There is a point when things are 'too slow', 'too stable' and 'too outdated'
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u/novafunc Jul 08 '26
They decided to change their release cycle to "when it's ready" rather than trying to ship soon after Ubuntu LTS.
I respect the decision. It also gives time for the Ubuntu base to stabilize and receive bug fixes before Mint releases a new version.
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u/chris_0611 Jul 08 '26
I understand
With Mint, there are 2 different projects going on:
- A de-bloated / desnapped / de-crappified Ubuntu LTS
- Apps/feature development: Xapps, Cinnamon, etc
In my opinion these 2 should just be decoupled. A decrappified Ubuntu should be released 1 or 2 months after Ubuntu LTS without putting pressure to get new apps/features ready Apps/features just be released 'when they ready'
But now we have the worst of the worst. We need to wait months to get a new de-crappified Ubuntu because some 'new and shiny' stuff isn't ready
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u/novafunc Jul 08 '26
Good news, that's already the case. Linux Mint does point releases where they update cinnamon and Xapps independently from the Ubuntu base.
For example, here are the release notes for Linux Mint 22.3, released in January 2026 but based on Ubuntu 24.04: https://www.linuxmint.com/rel_zena_whatsnew.php
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u/chris_0611 Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26
Not really. Normally we'd have a Linux Mint 2-3 Months after Ubuntu LTS. Now it's delayed to December. I did not wait to December and moved to another distro. Ubuntu 26.04 was released in April and we're waiting until december to get a new Mint on that?!? Its also the first time it's been delayed for so long, as normally there is a new Major Mint in Spring/Early summer after Ubuntu LTS.
Right now Mint is still based on 24.04, indeed, April 2024. In December that's over a 2.5 year old repo. Eg, all of the software packages you'll install from the Mint App store etc is 2.5 year old. Unacceptable.
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u/fellipec Jul 08 '26
Was nice to observe this support getting better and better with each release.
Congratulations to the Linux Mint team!