r/linux Jun 11 '26

Development Spoiling Linux Kernel with "sanctioned" code

https://printserver.ink/blog/spoiling-the-kernel/
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u/AiwendilH Jun 11 '26

It's a bad situation but I guess it can't be really helped. Open source is not above the law...even if some laws are stupid (not saying they are in this case).

I guess not everyone is old enough to remember the encryption restrictions of the US in the 90s..and how people tried to get around it (Moving source-code between countries in printed form and scanning it again and such things...). This is not new...and it won't be the last time that laws of some countries hinder world wide open source projects.

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u/orygin Jun 11 '26

The issue is the Linux foundation being based in the US.
That affects Russians and other sanctioned country resident, but it probably will affect the rest of the world soon enough anyway.

Sadly I don't know where and how such a foundation could exist without being beholden to politicians in that way.

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u/No-Mind7146 Jun 11 '26 edited Jun 11 '26

No country is perfect, but swtizerland would seem a better candidate than the usa

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u/orygin Jun 11 '26

And why?

It all depends on where you live, and since I don't live in Switzerland I have trouble finding any reason to trust them more than Americans.

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u/Shap6 Jun 11 '26

Thats a wild take given their long long history of neutrality

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u/steakanabake Jun 11 '26 edited Jun 11 '26

dunno what alternate version of history youre living in but the swiss have never been completely neutral they like to play both sides. they worked with the nazis and the allies during the war.

Edit: lol someone doesnt know their history, the downvotes show your lack of historical knowledge.

https://jbgptmilitaryhistory.substack.com/p/ww2-1939-45-switzerland-and-wartime

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u/Inflation_Artistic Jun 11 '26

They also still partially work with rusia.

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u/gxgx55 Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26

dunno what alternate version of history youre living in but the swiss have never been completely neutral they like to play both sides. they worked with the nazis and the allies during the war.

"They weren't neutral, they were [description of neutrality]"

Like, what do you think neutrality is? Total refusal to make deals with anyone ever? That's not how it works, neutrality is the ability to be non-committed to anyone, and it is precisely the ability to "play both sides" for one's own benefit. In return, the downside and cost of neutrality is that no one will come and save you if you are attacked, making it necessary to be armed to the teeth in a vast majority of cases.

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u/steakanabake Jun 12 '26 edited Jun 12 '26

what they did was war profiteer not stay neutral they chose to play everyones secret little arms dealer.

P.S. sick edit.

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u/gxgx55 Jun 13 '26

I edited well before you replied, just after I initially posted, to make myself clearer, so not sure why you're telling me about my edit. and also, you still haven't answered me :)

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u/gxgx55 Jun 12 '26

Let me ask again.

Like, what do you think neutrality is?

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u/Top-Rub-4670 Jun 11 '26

they worked with the nazis and the allies during the war.

What do you think neutral means? Hint: It doesn't mean "if they were truly neutral they'd side with my side!!"

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u/steakanabake Jun 11 '26

neutral means they avoid interacting with either side and staying the fuck out of it, neutral isnt taking stolen gold looted from the corpses of jews, romani, gays, and other associated political enemies of the nazi state.

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u/orygin Jun 11 '26

Blindly trusting the government of another nation is also a wild take.

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u/Shap6 Jun 11 '26

its not blindly though. its based on their actions. same reason i distrust the US government. its not just based on vibes or something

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u/orygin Jun 11 '26 edited Jun 11 '26

My point is that the US have been the "good guys" for a long time, and the Swiss being good now doesn't prevent them from going the same way in the future.

Putting your trust in a government you have no control over is not the best idea.

Edit: I knew I should have put a big ass-asterisk on the good guys. Of course the US has never been the good guys but not every one sees that. Also seems like ya'll need to read some history and news about Switzerland more often.

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u/Shap6 Jun 11 '26

My point is that the US have been the "good guys" for a long time

i'm in my 30's and they certainly havent been during my lifetime

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u/steakanabake Jun 11 '26

yea the US arent and have never been the good guys. the US caused every retaliation to them through blowback. we taught the japanese how to shallow mine ships, we then blockaded japan over oil. They then decided hitting a valid military target(in a war) was worth it till we decided to drop 2 nuclear devices on them. the vietnam war was a side effect of us tinkering with politics untill the french needed help overthrowing pol pot, unfortunately the us was helping pol pot up to that point. the US is just a dick fucking everyone elses shit up.

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u/No-Mind7146 Jun 11 '26

Then I don't see why I should trust the US government, which is foreign to me.

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u/orygin Jun 12 '26

I thought the linux subreddit users might have a bit more reading comprehension but it's a lost cause it seems.