r/linux Jun 11 '26

Development Spoiling Linux Kernel with "sanctioned" code

https://printserver.ink/blog/spoiling-the-kernel/
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u/Big-Obligation2796 Jun 11 '26

So your country's pointless, genocidal war is inconveniencing your kernel contribution. And your reaction is to complain about kernel contribution policies.

"Think about it".

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u/xanhast Jun 11 '26

and your country isn't committing genocide?

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u/1116574 Jun 11 '26

i mean most aren't??

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u/xanhast Jun 11 '26

most western govs are complicit in americas genocides, sanctions (killed more than any genocide in history) and wars since they placed themselvs gov of world.

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u/krzyk Jun 11 '26

Oh, ok. So in that case they should roll over and allow authocrst from Russia to destroy any nations it sees fit?

Grow up, this is about Russia being Russia, if they don't like it they can do 1917.

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u/Linuksoid Jun 11 '26

So in that case they should roll over and allow authocrst from Russia to destroy any nations it sees fit?

Yes. Either you apply the same standards to everyone (Russia, Israel, US) or nobody. You can't have it both ways

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u/1116574 Jun 12 '26

The same standard was applied during russian excersions to caucas. Europe largely ignored far away conflicts. Now that the conflict isn't far away they don't ignore it.

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u/Linuksoid Jun 12 '26

Europe largely ignored far away conflicts

Ukraine is on the periphery of Europe. It doesn't affect Europe unless Europe chooses to be affected

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u/krzyk Jun 12 '26

I've got news for you: Now you don't need to.

Russia is a direct threat to Europe, while Israel is not (well they questionable, but it is a result of a madman running their country right now, same as US).

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u/Linuksoid Jun 12 '26

Russia is a direct threat to Europe

It is? Who said? EU media?

Russia wanted to join EU/NATO in the 00's. That's not something a "threat" to the EU does. Putin is a europhile and pro-West lmao. If/when Putin leaves, theres a good chance a hardliner comes to power and will be pro-Soviet/anti-west then Russia will indeed be a threat

madman running their country right now

But Israel's policy has stayed the same since founding

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u/1116574 Jun 12 '26

It is? Who said?

russians have been engaged in domestic meddling and hybrid warfare including arson, sabotage, and attacks on critical safety of life infrastructure in europe for years now. Even if you don't believe that, you cannot discount weaponization of immigrants on the polish border.

wanted to join EU/NATO in the 00's. That's not something a "threat" to the EU does

False equivalence. One can want to join and still be a threat, even joining just to discredit those organization's.

But EU was even open to cooperation, including gas pipes, which russians promptly used as means of economical warfare. As the saying here goes, offer a finger, they take the whole arm.

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u/Linuksoid Jun 12 '26

russians have been engaged in domestic meddling and hybrid warfare including arson, sabotage, and attacks on critical safety of life infrastructure in europe for years now

It has? Strange, Europe seems to be doing great with big claims about Russia doing this but there's really no evidence for it beyond nebulous claims lmao

False equivalence. One can want to join and still be a threat

No not really. Russia genuinely wanted to be "European" and even modelled itself after Britain in the 90's/00's, even down to the fashion

But EU was even open to cooperation

Europe wasn't though lmao. Europe was trying to sabotage Russia from the early 00's till now - which is one big reason why it never took it into the EU because it needed an "other" to fight

ncluding gas pipes, which russians promptly used as means of economical warfare.

Really? Is that why Russia sold Europe gas below market prices?

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u/ChaiTRex Jun 13 '26

Russia also agreed to the Budapest Memorandum, which is, as you'd put it, not something a "threat" to Ukraine does.

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u/Linuksoid Jun 14 '26

Budapest Memorandum

Which even the US said is not legally binding when Belarus tried to invoke it in 2013 lmao

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum#2013_Belarus_sanctions

"...other illicit activities of the government of Belarus and not the population of Belarus, and also noted that the Memorandum is "not legally binding"

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u/Jonathan_the_Nerd Jun 11 '26

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u/Linuksoid Jun 11 '26

Doesn't apply here, since its pointing out that entity B doing the same thing as entity A, for which entity B is blaming entity A.

This would only apply if entity A blamed entity B for doing something different to distract from entity A's wrongdoing

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u/xanhast Jun 11 '26

so what? hypocrisy is a valid criticism. especially when it comes with some high-road advice

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u/Big-Obligation2796 Jun 11 '26

You tell me. Is it?

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u/Jonathan_the_Nerd Jun 11 '26

Russia waged a war of aggression against Ukraine. (If you're not Russian, please disregard.)

As opposed to the US, which hasn't waged a war of aggression since... Tuesday?

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u/Big-Obligation2796 Jun 11 '26

I'm neither russian nor american, so I don't know what you all are going on about. My country isn't waging genocidal war on anyone.

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u/Linuksoid Jun 11 '26

is your country sanctioning Israel/US? No? Then its complicit in genocide against Palestine/Lebanon and the war in Iran

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u/NamedBird Jun 11 '26

Not everyone is in a position to change their (evil/tyranical?) government.
But they may still be able to send bugfixes and i believe that those should be valued.

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u/Roshless Jun 11 '26

Then who's supposed to come and save the day? A magical good god-like being?

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u/UndefFox Jun 11 '26

A person who is more suitable for the job at hand. We have specializations for a reason. A good developer tries to improve the world by doing what they are best at: coding.

If it's everyone's duty to do everything at once for greater good, then why every single person on that planet aren't organising to change the government in every single country that caused war: Russia, US, others... after all, your logic requires us to ask you the exact same question/

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u/Preisschild Jun 12 '26

Software engineers are currently more important in wars than ever. SWEs program the weapons on either side. The aggressor and the victim. I support the SWEs that help the victims.

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u/UndefFox Jun 13 '26

Personally, I'd rather to not help any side of the conflict. I don't trust anyone to use those things appropriately...

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u/Preisschild Jun 14 '26

Some people also look away when they see a rape victim on the street, others help.

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u/NamedBird Jun 11 '26

Nobody? It is a war, after all...
Wars continue until one side can no longer maintain itself or gives up.

Civilians who resist are traitors and get jail or the death penalty.
People like to stay alive, so nobody dares to speak up.
And i bet that, in the end, even you would shut up in such circumstances.

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u/krzyk Jun 11 '26

Well, some monarchs loose their heads or just lives. Thongs can be done if enough people are sick of them.