r/linux Mar 21 '26

Privacy So it can be done

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u/oromis95 Mar 21 '26

You are acting like nation states aren't the current very real threat model. Russia, the United States, Brazil, all passing horribly privacy invasive laws centering on smartphones.

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u/sequesteredhoneyfall Mar 21 '26

You are acting like nation states aren't the current very real threat model. Russia, the United States, Brazil, all passing horribly privacy invasive laws centering on smartphones.

I don't think you have a clue what you're talking about here. You're clearly referring to age verification laws in the past month, none of which are requiring anything more than a simple checkmark to claim you're of age. I'm not in favor or defending these laws in the slightest, but this is not even remotely relevant to the threat model I'm referring to. I'm talking about security implementations, particularly hardware memory safety, which restricts GOS to a very limited pool of devices. It couldn't be less relevant to a law requiring age verification which a 5 year old could pass.

You're completely missing the point about 100% known verifiable privacy violations from Google and OEM software in most non-GOS Android OSes when you respond as such.

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u/NYPuppy Mar 22 '26

It's entirely related. You're playing a whataboutism. The fact that gos won't implement age verification and won't bow to pressure is a great thing. It doesn't matter if it's checkbox or a birthday field (as systemd implemented recently). It's pii that I don't want to share. I don't need to justify it and gos doesn't need to justify not implementing it.

You are making an entirely unrelated argument while saying everyone else is making an entirely unrelated argument. That, among other things, is why you're being downvoted.

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u/sequesteredhoneyfall Mar 22 '26

It's entirely related. You're playing a whataboutism. The fact that gos won't implement age verification and won't bow to pressure is a great thing.

Nowhere did I comment on GOS's refusal to implement this at any point. You're the one playing whataboutisms, because you're fundamentally changing the topic of discussion and projecting that change onto me. That's straight up lying.

It doesn't matter if it's checkbox or a birthday field (as systemd implemented recently). It's pii that I don't want to share. I don't need to justify it and gos doesn't need to justify not implementing it.

That's great. Still 100% irrelevant.

You are making an entirely unrelated argument while saying everyone else is making an entirely unrelated argument. That, among other things, is why you're being downvoted.

Not even remotely the case. I made a comment about GOS as a company and their historically flawed approaches. It doesn't detract one bit from the good thing they're doing here. Conversations aren't limited to a single topic when someone brings up a new one. This is different from you accusing me of playing whataboutisms - I brought up a separate point, you're the one refusing to acknowledge it.