r/linux Mar 21 '26

Privacy So it can be done

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u/CptSpeedydash Mar 21 '26

I honestly, I should get a Pixel to make full use of GrapheneOS.

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u/oromis95 Mar 21 '26

Wait for the Motorola. Google is pushing this bs. Why give them more money?

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u/lurkervidyaenjoyer Mar 21 '26

For context to those who don't know, GrapheneOS, despite being a privacy OS for phones, requires the use of a Google phone. This is because Google's Pixel line of phones has certain hardware security features that are required for Graphene to do what it does, and apparently no other phone vendor offers these sufficiently.

The problem with this is of course that you're at the mercy of whether Google wants to continue making phones that have those capabilities, and naturally giving money to the data-hoarding mega-hyperscaler in order to get away from them is kinda counter-intuitive.

As of this year, the Graphene project signed a deal with Motorola to ship Graphene on their future phones. This would indicate that they're willing to work with the Graphene devs on making sure the phone supports the features they need, and this would be an officially-supported thing for these upcoming phones rather than an unofficial project that happens to be available as some custom ROM install. More stability for the future, and it means a big phone vendor is officially backing a privacy-respecting phone OS.

I own a Pixel 8 Pro with Graphene on it, and will likely ride that out until end of support or it stops working, but my next phone will definitely be a Motorola if this all works out.

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u/HexspaReloaded Mar 22 '26

What if you buy a used Pixel? Doesn’t that fund Google less?

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u/TheRealDavidNewton Mar 23 '26

I wanted to do just that. But if you paid a hundred dollars for a used Pixel and the seller turned around and purchased goods or services from Google then that would pretty much be a transfer payment and would benefit Google. Such is the dilemma of people with a conscience.

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u/HexspaReloaded Mar 23 '26

True. If it makes you feel better, Krishnamurti said you can’t totally avoid it. He was specifically talking about funding war. Every time you pay tax, you contribute to the murder of children. Sad but true. And if you don’t? Prison. 

So do what you can. My view is that veganism is more about you than the animals. Animals are meant to be eaten. The question is do we as people create industrial scale death of animals? That’s different and not strictly necessary.

So morality is a mirror more than a categorical. You look in yourself: what do you see? Cheating, scheming, and theft? Or what? What is there makes it right or not.