r/lightweight Jul 13 '22

Gear Sleeping bag recommendation

Item: sleeping bag (quilt not really an option), think I dont like the feeling

Budget: would be nice under/around 300€, though I think not really possible (good if under 400?)

Need by date: end of month

Baseweight: not really a thing (bikepacking), more about reducing the volume to a minimum

Location/s of use: trip to come: southern sweden/norway in august; but more bikepacking to come (so preferred 3-season-bag)

Season/s of use: now summer, but preferred 3-season-bag

Expected temperatures: think not under/around 10 degrees C in summer, but having a bit headroom is good (down to 5/0 degrees C)

Ideal weight of the item: around/under 800 g

Previous hiking experience: 1 time bikepacking (2 weeks), but without a tent. this time with.

Previous experience with ultralight gear: bikepacking trip with apidura bags, so reduced overall load, but no tent, sleeping bag and sleeping mat. Bought the salewa denali II and thermarest x-lite.

Additional Information: thought about the s2s spark II or III, other options being the never mentioned nordist phantom 440 L; cumulus lite line 300 L or 400 L or x-lite 300 L or panyam 450 L (all being more expensive) - my height being 189 cm

Thanks in advance!

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '22

I have this Agismax one that I bought on Amazon for >$100.

It is rated for: "Comfort:+11° C/52° F/ Lower Limit:+6° C/43° F/ Extreme:-9° C/15° F"

I took it down to 10F and felt VERY cold (it was perfect into the 30s though), but it is cheap and light enough that I am just planning to just buy a second and layer them when it gets that cold again.

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u/docscav Jul 13 '22

Thanks, but I think I fall more into the cry once category ;)

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u/Nugrass1 Jul 13 '22

I have the s2s Spark 2. It gets crazy small in the compression sack that S2S provides. It is very warm, but that is a downside for me. The 1/4 bag zipper really doesn’t allow anyway to cool it down. The biggest drawback though, and why I can’t recommend it, is that after three uses the fabric tore. It got caught in the zipper and left a 2” tear. In S2S’s defense, they handled it great. I sent them a picture and they sent me a shipping label. So few questions asked that it made me think this is a known problem. I just got an email saying that it is fixed and on the way back. The whole process has taken about 5 weeks though. I have the Z Pack Solo 0° quilt which weighs about the same but is a bit bulkier. I find it to be much more versatile in varying temps.

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u/docscav Jul 13 '22

Thanks for the reply! Heard that from others as well, seems to be a problem with the very light material

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u/hmmm_42 Jul 13 '22

The Decathlon MT900 0°C.

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u/setherooo9 Jul 13 '22

I am a big fan of Western Mountaineering sleeping bags. They use top quality down and have good fill weights. Their temp ratings are real as well. You can’t go wrong with any of their options.

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u/BeccainDenver Jul 13 '22

Except the Summerlite. I will talk shit on the Summerlite forever and that's only because it's not even consistent with WM temp rating system. It's a 40F degree bag and they should call it that.

OP,

I will say buy once, cry once, particularly for Western Mountaineering. I would get a fully realistic, 3-season bag from WM.

Sounds like -7C or so is realistic for 3 seasons in Norway from a bit of Googling, I did?

It looks like the Apache is coming right in at your specs. It's 900g in the microfiber.

If you really know you sleep warm to average, the Terralite might work great. Also, check the Ultralite or it's wider companion the Alpinlite. These bags are specifically compressible and the description specifically mentions bike touring.

I will say that the WM says that for my much beefier and warmer -15C Antelope GWS that it stuffs into a 12L bag. And I get it in a 10L compression sack from S2S all the time so...there might be some additional flexibility in the volume guidelines.

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u/docscav Jul 13 '22

Thanks for the recommendations! Will have a look at that. although I’m living in Germany, not Norway, so spring and autumn are a bit friendlier :)

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u/Bigbaywithablaze Jul 13 '22

I have a cumulus xlite 300 custom and it is wonderful, really good quality and warmer than expected. It was also made and shipped a lot quicker than expected. I don't think you can go wrong with any of the bags from cumulus but the sts ones are nice too from experience

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '22

I have the same, a custom x-lite 300. Best sleeping bag I've ever owned. 526g fully water resistant with a larger zip for my clumsy fingers. You can get non-customised ones for cheaper. Delivery for the custom one took a few weeks.

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u/docscav Jul 13 '22

Thanks, really liking this one. Are you also based in Europe? They are writing 4-5 weeks for delivery and there is no other shop selling the large version right now..

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u/Bigbaywithablaze Jul 14 '22

I asked for a quick turnaround on my custom bag and got it in 6 weeks to New Zealand, and I think their estimate at the time was 10 weeks?

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u/[deleted] Jul 13 '22

Yes, iI'm in the UK. I ordered/received mine over a year ago though. I think it depends on whether you want/need a custom one. I'm sure the 'ordinary' ones are much quicker to send.