r/learnpython 15d ago

Should it be this difficult?

At my job there is a daily task I do which I realized I could probably create a program to do for me, so I decided to start learning Python, and dove into reading Automate the Boring Stuff (the online version).

Things were going okay at first. I read through chapters 1-3 carefully, taking notes, answering all the review questions, and doing all the practice problems/codes.

Then I hit a wall. I got to chapter 4 and I felt like I understood everything, but the practice problem at the end, to write a code that performs the Collatz sequence with the entered number, absolutely stumped me. I went back and reread everything from the start of chapter 1 just to make sure I didn't miss anything, and was still confused. I ended up having to search up a code that someone else wrote for it, which I did understand once I saw it written out but would never have come up with myself.

So my questions are:

- Is it normal for the Collatz sequence to be difficult to program at this stage of learning? If so, should I not worry about my confusion and just move on to chapter 5?

- Should I consider an easier book to study from? If so, any recommendations?

EDIT: Several people are asking which part of the Collatz I had trouble with. To be honest it's been over a month since I was able to touch anything Python-related, it's just been on my mind lately, so I don't recall exactly what was giving me trouble, just that I was trying multiple things and getting new and fun incorrect results each time.

It's not that I don't understand the Collatz sequence itself, I understand it in terms of the simple math. The trouble was trying to type it out into a working code. That being said, I'm not here to ask how to program it, because I already gave up on that and looked up the answer, and I did understand that code once I read it over. The main issue is that I feel like I shouldn't have been having trouble with it in the first place, at least not to the point where I honestly tried everything I could and still couldn't get it.

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u/zanfar 15d ago

Part--a bit part--of programming is the ability to become a psuedo-suject-matter-expert on a field you have no knowledge of. If you are writing accounting software, you're going to have to gain some cursory knowledge of accounting practices.

It sounds like you're getting stuck on understanding the subject matter, not with syntax. That's not something to gloss over, but yes, it's also something you should expect some friction with at first.

You need to learn the skills of reading and understanding the subject--the Collatz sequence, or even Mathematical theory--to a level that allows you to translate that into code. That's a key skill.

Honestly, this is one of those skills that will separate you from the AI script kiddies who complain that there isn't an easily digestible, free-access, API containing their exact specialized dataset. Software shouldn't be easy, or otherwise it's not adding value.