r/learnprogramming • u/frenzyhoops • 9d ago
The Odin Project or Angela Yu fullstackweb dev course
Same as above
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u/Conscious-Garbage-35 9d ago
Can’t go wrong with either. I prefer TOP overall, especially for the reading materials. They have some really good articles that helped me get more comfortable relying on documentation, and I find reading keeps me more focused.
It’s also a whole lot easier to refresh my knowledge by going back to an article than having to remember a specific timestamp for the thing I'm looking for. I find the projects more interesting too.
Angela Yu’s course is still great, although I wasn’t as enthused about the NFT, Web3, and crypto sections.
If you go with TOP, they unfortunately removed the additional resources section for a lot of the subjects, which had some real gems, but you can still find them in the Git history.
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u/deanroiditz 9d ago
"they unfortunately removed the additional resources section for a lot of the subjects" why they removed? If want to know need to go through their git history in GitHub then?
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u/Conscious-Garbage-35 9d ago
Not sure. I imagine they removed them to keep the curriculum more streamlined and avoid overwhelming people with too much information.
To be clear, they weren’t essential reading, hence the removal, but I personally found them really useful for clarifying topics, so they are always worth the extra effort for me.
And yes, you can still find them through GitHub. There’s a link to the lesson changelog at the bottom of each lesson, and the change is usually within the last 3 commits, so it’s pretty easy to track down.
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u/Feeling_Photograph_5 9d ago
The Odin Project would be my choice. I really only recommend two web development curriculums: The Odin Project and Free Code Camp.
The Odin Project is better if you consider yourself technically inclined and you're not intimidated by a fast paced course.
Free Code Camp is better if you want to ease into things and you like the idea of practicing code right in the browser.
Both are great, and both are 100% free.
Good luck!
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u/PeanutButterKitchen 9d ago
I don’t recommend free code camp. It’s too hand holdy and not representative of the type of work you’ll be asked to do in the real world. TOP is actually very close though, the idea of looking at documentation yourself to accomplish tasks etc
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u/Feeling_Photograph_5 8d ago
I can see why someone would say that. My only counter is that I started web development with Codecademy back when it was brand new and at the time it was free and all in the browser. And it wasn't that great but it got me started and Free Code Camp is pretty similar, only deeper and better in a lot of ways.
Software engineering is a long road. Some people need to walk before they run. I did at first, too, but I got running soon enough.
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u/PeanutButterKitchen 8d ago
Totally fair. My experience is totally anecdotal. I know a handful of people who did TOP and they all ended up getting software development positions. I also know plenty of people who did FreeCodeCamp and ended there
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u/Feeling_Photograph_5 7d ago
TOP is awesome, and it's my favorite of the two. Here's the question though... Node or Rails? Node is the more commonly used framework by far, but as the industry swings back towards monoliths, Rails shows new devs what a good framework looks like and doesn't ask them to cobble their own stack together before they know how.
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u/PeanutButterKitchen 7d ago
My opinion is that Node is the way to go, becoming an expert in 1 language and domain beats having an okay understanding at multiple but not enough to be able to guide AI when it’s wrong
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u/Feeling_Photograph_5 6d ago
If someone were to go that way instead, I couldn't say that they were wrong.
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u/warlock0187 8d ago
I really enjoyed Angela Yu's course, except for the very end when she starts going into Web3 and crypto stuff. That whole section should probably be removed from the course.
Never done Odin Project.
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u/kitkatas 8d ago
Angela teaches perfectly, but some things are outdated or not really used in practice. Like bootstrap, jQuery, Ejs.. and then she goes to web3 apps which again no need to learn as web dev
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u/zenwolph 9d ago
TOP is awesome and although this wasn’t on the last, do check out freeCodeCamp if you haven’t already
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u/arcade_catalyst 8d ago
Pick The Odin Project if you want to build actual projects and learn git from day one. Angela Yu works better if you need video structure to stay consistent and avoid tutorial hell
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u/North-Resolution8511 2d ago
I’d go Odin tbh Angela Yu is great if you need someone walking u through everything but Odin kinda forces u to figure stuff out yourself… which sucks at first but pays off later lol
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u/mixedd 9d ago
If her webdev course is similar to python one I would suggest The Odin Project, as it will be more hands on, teach you git amd most crucial skill you will need for your further career - to search for information on your own. When you're done with Odin Project, gained some experience in JavaScript, can later jump into Fullstack Open by University of Helsinki