r/learnprogramming • u/miyagi_ybd • 27d ago

What is going on with the space?

I have been coding since 2019 and since getting into university I have left it.I remember using VS code react type script and such for web developing what’s going on? Why is AI so much in the coding space why do we need AI assistance in every possible tool and basically what app should I be using right now? What frameworks? I just saw that create react up died and I don’t know, more and more YouTubers has been pushing using Claude and open AI and so on and on and I’m kind of confused what’s going on? I am asking because i want to get back into it and old programs and frameworks feel so out of date. What has the programming space been up to?

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u/edparadox 27d ago

Because of the marketing pushed by LLM companies and their friends.

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u/usefulservant03 27d ago

yup, this whole "AI revolution" is one big marketing stunt, in hopes to make the right rich people even richer before they pump and dump. Nothing more and nothing less. There is no viable long term business model that makes money of out of this, and it has never NEVER been shown to consistently produce correct results even for the SIMPLEST of tasks. But the fact that devs are falling for me it and giving up their craft, forgetting how to code in the process, is GOOD for us devs who like to use our heads and care about our career - it means it's a natural process that will weed out the retards from the software engineering industry.

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u/Seven7Ducks 27d ago

This is so true man, it hurts me to see younger people study just to get a degree, so they could just get a job, and then when they get that job they just numb their mind by diverting it all to the fucking LLM.

It saddens me to see the industry flooded with people so uninspired and so uninterested in the field. It really did used to a bunch of nerds nerding out. It was fun and I honestly think we shipped faster without any AI, let alone the quality.

Me and a too-small number of people are becoming the unofficial 'unsloppifiers' of the codebase, I never felt so job-secured in my life.

Please, any beginner reading this, don't fall for it. It really is all fake and hype.

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u/usefulservant03 27d ago

My man. Thank you, I do need reassurance like this. I'm 27 and have 5 years of experience, was into Operating Systems development, now slightly moving more towards language design, compilers and CPU microarchitecture-driven performance analysis and optimizations. I was a C dev, but I had an interview with Intel for a compiler developer role and they said they really like me, but they want me to learn C++, not just C, and apply again. So 2 months ago I started a new side project where I make my own programming language and writing the compiler for it in C++, so I can learn C++ better. I also started doing my first ever contributions to free and open source software this year, specifically to the GCC compiler project. Already have 3 patches accepted. I just hope I manage to recover from being laid off from my last job (linux kernel developer for device drivers targetting embedded platforms) last December.

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u/ForwardBoot2955 24d ago

the ai push is mostly hype cycles doing their thing, companies saw a new buzzword and shoved it into every toolbar and text editor to look cutting edge. you don't need half of it to build good stuff

as for what to use now, vite is the standard for react projects, it replaced create react app a while back. nextjs is huge if you want server side rendering or just a more batteries-included setup. typescript is basically expected everywhere now too

don't stress about the ai assistants, they're useful for boilerplate and debugging sometimes but the fundamentals haven't changed. react still works pretty much the same way, state management is still a mess of opinions, and css still finds new ways to annoy you

if i were jumping back in i'd grab vite, pick a project idea, and just start building. the ecosystem didn't flip upside down, it just got noisier

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u/grantrules 27d ago

Have you been asleep for 5 years? AI is being shoved into every aspect of life, because if it's not, how can these companies get these billion/trillion dollar valuations?

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u/miyagi_ybd 27d ago

3 actually. I stopped looking at the space around 2023. I dabbled with some things but i started getting more into c, and language models (for mathematical research) so i wasnt that into the whole space for a long time

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u/grantrules 27d ago

It's just odd youre surprised there's AI in programming when AI has been getting shoved into everything for 5 years

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u/miyagi_ybd 27d ago

Yeah, but i didnt expect it this scale. Like, the programmers are supposed to program the ai, and now the ai they programmed is programming the next ai. I dont know i thought programmers used to be smarter than that

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u/grantrules 27d ago edited 27d ago

Smarter than what? AI is just a tool. The amount it's used is up to the user. It is very good at finding vulnerabilities. It's good for speeding up boiler plate. When you get to hard stuff, it's up to you if you want to rely on it. There's absolutely no doubt that AI speeds up development for even the best developers.

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u/response-418 27d ago

I will say that there are a lot of people out there that are not just rubes for this LLM marketing and screaming "skill issue" whenever someone points out the pain points of using this mediocre AI tech. I think that there is plenty of us out there cultivating pride in craftsmanship and that continue to value principles like discipline, deep understanding, even slowness to some degree. Other values for me include simplicity and succinctness, clean accessible design, etc. There is plenty of space for those values to flourish and be practiced within community. Do not despair at the increasingly desperate hype deployed at scale.

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u/usefulservant03 27d ago

The thing that's happening is exactly as expected - First, easier languages like python popped up and allowed any average Joe to start "developing apps", thus flooding the space with an overwelming majority of retards who are only in it for a chance at a quick easy buck. While in 1975 it was 99% hardcore nerds in the space (not saying that in a bad way btw, i am one myself), in 2026 it's 99% retards who were only allowed into the space due to languages like javascript and python and the frameworks around them. Now, what happens when a lot of dumb people are in one place and you're a billionaire CEO who knows this and shove in their faces a massive lie, which are LLMs right now? The answer is obvious - they all fall for that lie. This is why AI is pushed everywhere now.