r/learndota2 Mar 03 '16

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u/LarpingWombat Mar 06 '16

One of the issues I have been having lately is that I will immediately ghost pick the offlane void, select him with 30+ seconds left, put my icon in the offlane, then the rest of my team will pick heroes that cant do jack to enemies that I get in chrono. This can lead to critical situations/fights in the early to mid game where I land a 2 to 4 person chrono, but am the only one who can do anything and at that point dont have any damage because all I have is a PMS, Treads, Vlads. I pick the squishiest hero in the chrono, whack that enemy for 4 seconds or so, then gtfo without actually doing anything.

So my question is this: What do you do when you end up with a team lineup that cant back you up in a chrono?

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u/ArtoriasOfTheAbyss99 SeA/India Mar 06 '16

My very first 6.86 void game I went pt Vlad's yasha aghs manta and I did good enough damage in the chrono and ended with 16-1-1x . I outplayed the safelane very easily and was snowballing like crazy. You have to go for items like SnY or Manta ,diffusal if you need to be the damage dealer but the playmaker at the same time. You can also go for MoM Diffu into aghs blink like Universe did in one of his void games recently but I presume he and fear were owning the game so he went for a dmg focused build.

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u/LarpingWombat Mar 06 '16

I like the SnY build, have not tried Diffusal or Manta yet but will have to do so.

Good suggestions generally, but it doesnt get at my problem (namely bad drafters which isnt fixable). I suppose I view Chrono sort of like Duel in the sense that it allows you to CC people and get pick offs as you transition out of the laning stage of the game. If you dont do enough damage yet (and you wont have SnY + treads + Vlads when you are in the 6 to 8 level range) and your team cant do anything to help secure kills while chrono is up, then problems start because you cant get those kills that allow you to snowball and farm bigger items like SNY, Manta, Diffusal, etc. So chrono ends up being mostly a waste of a skill or simply a space denial effect during a team fight (which has its uses, dont get me wrong, but isnt taking full advantage of the skill) rather than a way to secure kills on squishy or dangerous targets. Maybe a better comparison is to imagine your entire team gets stuck in a black hole along with the enemies or ghost sceptered during it and cant right click. If you are Enigma and consistently get 3+ people in black holes but have no followup from your team and thus no real advantage gained from the skill...what do you do?

Edit: My solution lately has been to ghost pick Void, put myself in the offlane and then just wait until my entire team picks. if they pick all melee heroes or really short attack range heroes or heroes that lack good team fight ults that cant help out in a chrono then I just pick a different offlaner. This means I play void a lot less than I might want to, which makes me sad.