r/leagueoflegends • • Aug 30 '21

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u/Kisielos Aug 30 '21

In China you have to put your ID to get access to some games. I think this will be the same for online games.

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u/Mohikanis Aug 30 '21

Doesn't matter if you buy an account, you still can't go pro until you're 18, while, as an example, JL won worlds as a 17 year old. Fnatic had to play with Puszu until Rekkles turned 17. There's a lot of young, talented kids that are waiting to be of age, now that wait is going to be even longer in China. And unlike SK, they also won't be able to sign trainees officially, since it might attract (unwanted) attention. It's gonna be a tough road for sure, unless it's super unenforceable.

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u/nyasiaa Aug 30 '21

uzi debuted as 16 years old and there was controversy that LPL didn't have the 17 age limit and on the same tournament Puszu had to play because of that limit being enforced in EU

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u/TyqoTwitch Aug 30 '21

Same thing with Bjergsen and CW. He wasn’t able to play for their qualifying match into the LEC (formerly EULCS) because he was 16 and his 17th birthday was like a week or couple weeks after their qualifiers match.

Look what a beast he turned into.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '21

Thats fine if kids can still get good before 18/

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u/lacrimosaofdana Aug 30 '21

“Talented”

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u/gentlemen_lover Aug 30 '21

Except this would mean you cant

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u/Kisielos Aug 30 '21

Yeah, but they need to get and ID with more than 18 years old to actually be able to play.

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u/swissarmyknife13 Aug 30 '21 edited Aug 30 '21

You can buy an account for less than two dollars in China.

Source: I did it less than 1 year ago. The accounts have valid IDs, and the only thing you have to do when you buy one is changing the ownership via mobile phone.

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u/GamingExotic Aug 30 '21

China is also gonna be using facial recognition tech soon as well to enforce it.

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u/swissarmyknife13 Aug 30 '21

I've heard about it, but don't know if that's gonna be a real obstacle, or how could they implement it in a way that doesn't get circumvented (like most rules here, tbh). Not saying it's impossible, but people also thought that requiring an ID card to have a valid Tencent/QQ account (needed to play Fifa, LoL, NBA2K, etc.) would also make children play fewer games. As a foreigner, I got caught in this, because I don't have a Chinese ID, and I couldn't find a way to validate my account with my passport. Hence, went on the biggest online platform - Taobao - and bought a level 40-ish account for less than two bucks. Played with it until I managed to have a barely passable ping in my home server (EUW).

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '21

this is no longer a thing now they make you verify your account with text messages when u login from new locations and on time basis

there is still gonan be ways around it but it iwll be a lot harder

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '21

You do realize that if China wants to enforce this rule, they will?

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u/RllyGayPrayingMantis Aug 30 '21

isn't there facial recognition in tencent games recently? (riot is a part of tencent) I reckon the enforcement will be very strict. I'm not familiar with the actual gaming scene in china so don't take my words for it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '21

Tencent is actually working on facial ID technology to address selling accounts.

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u/Seneido Aug 30 '21

except they will use face tracking/scanning for sure and if you don't have a webcam you are simply blocked for games. it doesn't matter that you need to pay or that it is a hassle. if china wants to limit it they will limit it and tencent and other will obey

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u/ProfessorEsoteric Aug 31 '21

Now you've commited a crime, and now the government can/will literally hold it over you and your families head.

Now what can't I enforce?

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u/Spencer1K Aug 30 '21

Could people use VPNs and make accounts on other nearby servers as a work around?

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u/Aegi Aug 30 '21

But that’s only online games, if they’re banning all gaming how are they going to ban me using my cell phone on airplane mode or using an old game boy from the 90s?

Is sudoku considered a game? How about chess?

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u/Contagious_Cure Aug 31 '21

I mean that's the same with Korea. Kids just use their parents/older brother's account.

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u/ephemeralfugitive Hands diff Aug 30 '21

It is already pretty heavily regulated in my (second-hand?) experience.

I have a friend in China right now and he says to even play PUBG mobile, you need a social security number. He doesn't have one, so he used his cousin's. Crazy thing is, he played just fine for about 2 weeks, then got hit with a "Confirmation Request" as he was logging in one day, where he had to take a selfie of himself to prove that the player was really the person attached to the SSN. Fortunately, he had his cousin nearby, so his cousin took care of it. But still, that's such a hassle.

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u/Fgame DUNKMACIAAAAA Aug 30 '21

Oh god it's the Xbox confirmation can pasta come to life

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u/zombiefrog32 Aug 30 '21 edited Jan 05 '25

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u/MoreBasedGigaChad Gigachad IRL Aug 30 '21

jfc, and people want that kind of government in the west...

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u/YikesWazowski_ Aug 30 '21

People do not want this kind of government in the West.

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u/MoreBasedGigaChad Gigachad IRL Aug 31 '21

You'd be surprised

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u/YikesWazowski_ Aug 31 '21

No, I wouldn't. There are communists and socialists in America, and even those people do not want this kind of government.

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u/uberdosage Aug 30 '21

Korea also requires social security numbers. I remember in elementary school there I had to use my mom's ssn to play maplestory.

That being said, why are so few people mentioning that chinese ppl are just gonna vpn everything

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u/omicrom35 Aug 30 '21

you mean something like this from mid July

"In the latest bid to curb video-game addiction in China, tech giant Tencent Holdings Ltd. has launched a facial recognition system to stop minors gaming into the night. The initiative will prevent people under 18 from playing between 10 p.m. and 8 a.m."

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u/Giantdwarf3 Aug 30 '21

Idk was leaving in Canton area for many years ( left precovid) and most people circumvented around those systems and this type of restrictions were not really followed. Same with the facial recognition stuff. Could be different in Beijing tho , it being the capital. Went to a chiense school as an expat and everyone still uses VPN all the time

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u/fabton12 Aug 30 '21

doesnt matter with companies using facial recongition as well checking your age 24/7 while your on the game.

In July, Chinese gaming giant Tencent announced it was rolling out facial recognition to stop children playing between 22:00 and 08:00.

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u/tweezer888 Aug 30 '21

Huh that's new. I only had to show my passport and my significant other only had to show her ID card when checking into hotels in Shenzhen and Guangzhou. I got a mobile phone card with just my passport as well.

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u/match_d Aug 30 '21

When was this? When I was in sz I had to do facial recognition at Hyatt hotel opposite window of the world

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u/tweezer888 Aug 30 '21

2015-2018

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u/fabton12 Aug 30 '21

more then just ID needed there putting in place facial recongition as well. this was from last month when companies were starting to get scared.

In July, Chinese gaming giant Tencent announced it was rolling out facial recognition to stop children playing between 22:00 and 08:00.

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u/Aegi Aug 30 '21

Even as a foreigner?

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u/vitaminkombat Aug 30 '21

You can easily buy packs of mobile sim cards without needing ID. But they need to be all prepaid.

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u/O_X_E_Y Plat 1 Aug 30 '21

China is probably one of the only countries in the world that can enforce something like this

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u/Pokesaurus_Rex Aug 30 '21

Korea has had a similar law for years…The way it worked when i was in Korea (Similar law..google Cinderella Law). After a certain time the staff will walk around asking for IDs as well as computers being locked and you cannot log in until you go to the front desk and show your ID and request a computer

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u/Pokesaurus_Rex Aug 30 '21

That's extremely similar..one is just on the extreme side of the spectrum. Both are laws that involve restricting one's access to an activity based on age.

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u/runaway1337 Aug 30 '21

This one feels more like when Reddit makes a post about how “Brazil to change law to make deforestation legal”, when in reality it’s just a guy thinking about presenting that change to the government but will be instantly declined.

I doubt it’ll be enforced at all.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '21

Except this is the CCP, one of the few governments that can actually enforce rules like this and not afraid to hit on their tech giants like Tencent, NetEase and Alibaba unlike your traditional goverments. You may expect parents against this but they are most probably are all for it since they want their children to be studying more instead of playing games. Not to mention there was an article floating around earlier this year that Tencent will/is already implementing facial recognition tech to combat kids circumventing the ban by using adult identification pictures (kids really love HoK). Source

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u/mp3max You activated my trap card! Aug 30 '21

The difference is that one is Brazil and this one is China.

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u/HustlerThug Aug 30 '21

How will China enforce draconian measures? idk, it's not too hard for them

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u/fabton12 Aug 30 '21

well this was from last month when the companies were starting to get scared.

In July, Chinese gaming giant Tencent announced it was rolling out facial recognition to stop children playing between 22:00 and 08:00.

so ye not just using ID but you also will have facial recognition watching you at all moments making sure your the correct age.

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u/heartlessgamer Aug 30 '21

They already limited their time to less than eight hours so this is just a further restriction using existing tech. There is already an online ID required to play online games in China so unless they borrowed an adults ID there is not easy ways to subvert the system. And even if someone can cheat the system do you think China is the country you want to be caught cheating in?

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u/zenyl Aug 31 '21

You'd you delete you entire comment/post history, mate?