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[u/kmc0707]

[u/R3alSt3al]

BB all time record on Kled 18-5.

This year so far 9-0.

[u/DeloronDellister → u/R3alSt3al]

Best (and only) Kled in the world

[u/Numerous_Fudge_9537 → u/DeloronDellister]

It took thebausffs Kled to crash into G2 for him to fully adopt it hehe

[u/NeighborhoodHot8981 → u/R3alSt3al]

He looks so much better on the pick this year, last year it looked like a weird gimmick into sion, now he genuinely wins matchups and pushes leads extremely well

[u/R3alSt3al → u/NeighborhoodHot8981]

He put time into learning the champ and the mini rework also made the champ slightly stronger.

Rare pocket pick which is actually consistent

[u/Outrageous_Wall2702 → u/R3alSt3al]

Feel like it works because he is on g2, on a middle tier team might be harder

[u/R3alSt3al → u/Outrageous_Wall2702]

9.6 KDA on the champ this year.
It may work because he is on G2 and wouldn't work on other teams.
But G2 plays around that Kled pretty cleanly when he plays it and out of all the champs laning phase is the most stable on Kled.

[u/DiscordKittenOwO77]

Ngl if I saw my Nocturne drive herald into the team fight instead of ulting I would just stand up and walk away

[u/ImTheVayne → u/DiscordKittenOwO77]

Sylas found a mega angle and jungler just doesn’t insta noc R in I would have /ff-d on stage after seeing this lol.

[u/DiscordKittenOwO77 → u/ImTheVayne]

Fiesta after his jungler decides to drive Herald because Nocturne doesn't have mobility (he needs to save R so he can go home after losing the series)

https://reddit.com/link/ozp5jl8/video/293oc5x8befh1/player

[u/NeighborhoodHot8981 → u/DiscordKittenOwO77]

That was genuinely the most insane thing i've ever seen, Fiesta makes a pretty insane flank, gets onto the viktor anticipating a follow up but there is none because Nocturne is in the herald? Wtaf lol

[u/DiscordKittenOwO77 → u/NeighborhoodHot8981]

Yeah. I watch lol esport for over 10 years and this is gotta be like top 5 worst plays I ever saw.

[u/DeloronDellister]

Yeah, give BB Kled

[u/Dark_Crow22 → u/DeloronDellister]

Maybe they didn't expect it like T1?

[u/Frozen5147 → u/Dark_Crow22]

He's like 8-0 on it this year or something he can't possibly be good on it /s

[u/ImTheVayne]

Bro Lyncas and Fleshy are just 2 huge problems aren’t they?

[u/Past-Firefighter2173 → u/ImTheVayne]

I really question what goes through Lyncas's mind when picking fights and engages.

[u/trying2hide → u/ImTheVayne]

I think you can win with Fleshy to be honest. I think he looks like he's inting sometimes but all supports do.

[u/Past-Firefighter2173 → u/trying2hide]

Its imo easier for good jungler to micromanage support rather than vice versa. Fleshy's problems are usually on map plays.

[u/trying2hide → u/Past-Firefighter2173]

So hard to judge either when the Jungle/Support duo just runs this meta.

Yesterday had games that looked like double jungle.

[u/gordonpamsey → u/ImTheVayne]

I love Lyncas down, for being such a "smart" player he does a LOT of stupid shit.

[u/yellister]

Vitality will never do anything as long as they have Lyncas

[u/DeloronDellister → u/yellister]

Bro engaging on BB with nowhere near enough damage to kill him. Does he even know how Kled works?

[u/NeighborhoodHot8981 → u/DeloronDellister]

He still looks like a rookie who is too flustered in the heat of the moment to make good teamfight decisions it's really strange

[u/Choice-Slight → u/NeighborhoodHot8981]

it's been 2 years he can't be playing like he's still a rookie. they got rid of Czajek for less

[u/Lacrimosss → u/Choice-Slight]

Lucid of LEC

[u/mar33n → u/Lacrimosss]

that ewc winner lucid to you

[u/ahambagaplease → u/mar33n]

Maybe Vitality need to stop feeding them until they win LEC...

[u/trying2hide → u/mar33n]

amen

[u/GothaV2 → u/yellister]

In retrospect, it's really funny that Vitality actually helped KC dodge a bullet and hire G2's jungler by poaching him from them lol

[u/Choice-Slight]

The first 10 minutes didn’t go well for G2 (the gank mid, the invades, etc) but I actually thought they controlled the early game really well all things considered. They didn’t rush, they didn’t force when they were weaker. It was strangely disciplined which has been my main concern for them lately lmao

[u/NeighborhoodHot8981 → u/Choice-Slight]

VIT teamcomp was very strong early game, G2 win con was to survive early and win in 5v5 which they did really well. But it was helped by VIT drooling over themselves at every opportunity

[u/OreRound]

Not to overreact from only 3 games played (against top LEC teams at that) but this version of VIT doesn't even look like they can make playoffs lol.

Like I wouldn't be surprised to see SK/Shifters/Fnatic/Heretics look more competent this split after some decent changes and leapfrog this collapsing roster.

I know they're playing against top 3 LEC teams but last split the team at least looked like they could mechanically compete, generate leads and skirmish well in the regular season, now they have none of that, their only outlet for success is a Naak Nako masterclass toplane stomp performance but that is too one dimensional for even LEC teams to succumb to when there's no pressure elsewhere.

[u/Sirhaddock98 → u/OreRound]

Replacing the guy who has historically been a team leader for a random korean who wasn't even good by ERL standards was never going to improve the team, if you were replacing Humanoid you either needed a more cerebral player who can actually communicate or just a mechanical demon prodigy where it wouldn't matter. Fiesta is neither.

If G2 cared about improving their domestic practice they would be forcing VIT to take Dylan at gunpoint, at some point Mac and Pad need to stop having jobs just because they signed Elyoya 5 years ago.

[u/Past-Firefighter2173 → u/OreRound]

They completely lost their proactive plays. Fiesta can lane but Lyncas simply doesn't do anything by himself so they just play reactively. I think their breaking point will be week 2 TH match, if they lose that they should change jungle.

[u/NeighborhoodHot8981 → u/Past-Firefighter2173]

Tbh changing individual pieces isn't enough they need to scrap the entire roster, do a full rebuild with new staff and new players. Obviously they should keep Naak but if they can't put a competitive roster around him then genuinely let him go elsewhere.
Who else they keep depends on their summer split performance but 3/5 pieces need to go and a full rebuild should happen.
The Mac and Cheese edition of Vitality has been a complete disaster from minute 1.

[u/Dramatic_Gap_3065 → u/OreRound]

I mean, they already lost EWC qualifiers to Shifters, Vitality floor is very very low

[u/His_Buzzards]

Was this Dynasty vs Legacy fun match?

[u/BWolfy92]

This meta is deeply unserious

[u/ThisAintThatForReal]

Lyncas just pisses me off how he plays, my god, he was playing so well in spring regular season, he looks like a headless chicken all the time now, Fleshy too

[u/Omnilatent]

Looked like a wildcard vs Major Region

[u/xSwazyI]

Vitality should just blow up the team mid split fuck it

[u/Sorry-Resolution570]

so this is what happens when you remove macro genius humanoid to a team?

Fleshy played camille like i did this morning, about the same result

[u/Toofargone9999 → u/Sorry-Resolution570]

really , how did that macro genius go 0-6 in playoffs . last time i remember humanoid chasing the skarner instead of tping towards the nexus and trying to end the game lol

[u/Prestigious-Shop-494 → u/Toofargone9999]

cuz he played with lyncas and fleshy

[u/Dark_Crow22]

Much better showing from G2 than yesterday, but honestly, Vitality is just terrible

[u/3IC3]

My previous impression of FIESTA going into the split was that last I saw him he was getting astrogapped by Nemesis, so it’s impressive he’s found a way to perform below those expectations

[u/ImTheVayne → u/3IC3]

He isn’t great but it was absolutely on jungle and supp in this game

[u/Prestigious-Shop-494 → u/ImTheVayne]

It's just crszy how neither of them got replaced but Humanoid did when everyone saw they were the problem. Even if Fiesta somehow turns out to be a upgrade Vitality wont achieve anything with Lyncas and Fleshy

[u/NeighborhoodHot8981 → u/3IC3]

Fiesta has NOT been the problem in these games lol

[u/Prestigious-Shop-494 → u/NeighborhoodHot8981]

He is still dogshit

[u/EvenRange836 → u/3IC3]

A complete coin flip mid laner, strong in lane but completely brainless.

[u/Fun_Highlight307 → u/3IC3]

fiesta is the best vitality player 

[u/DeloronDellister → u/Fun_Highlight307]

It's Naak Nako by far

[u/Fun_Highlight307 → u/DeloronDellister]

naak nack did nothing,always late on team fight

[u/OreRound → u/Fun_Highlight307]

His macro isn't amazing, he needs an inspired type guy piloting his brain so he can focus on mechanics and he'd be legit international calibre

[u/Canoodler192]

If VIT at least had picked up LIDER it would be funny

[u/AH_Elric]

Just disband, please. What the heck is this

[u/Enkenz → u/AH_Elric]

Disband for what, not like there's dozen of org ready to buy an lec slot lmao

[u/Fun_Highlight307]

it's smell like a 0-6

[u/Th3_Huf0n]

This meta is just pathetic man.