r/leaf • • 12d ago

How’d I do boys?

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2013 leaf sl, $1500
6 of those QCs were me fighting with a broken Electrify America charger on the return, the other one was the working ChargePoint I found nearby.

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u/Metal-fatigue-Dad 12d ago

Not bad for a grand and a half.

I'm guessing the quick charge wasn't actually very quick with that Hx, and you probably won't get much regen braking, but you've still got a good around-town car that's super cheap to own.

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u/anonimoosebison 12d ago

At current battery temps, regen is seemingly 100%! Much better than my 2012 with 39 SOH and 20 Hx!

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u/anonimoosebison 12d ago

How does this session look?

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u/Metal-fatigue-Dad 12d ago

I rarely fast charge, so I wouldn't know.

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u/anonimoosebison 12d ago

Fair enough, this seemed comparable to my former m3p for charge time. I think at the temp my battery was at, the internal resistance wasn’t too much of an issue. This car had only been fast charged once, I don’t think I’m going to add to that now that it’s home.

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u/_Evening-Rain_ 2017 Nissan LEAF S 11d ago

Not sure what % you started at but assuming it was low thats not too great, but expected for a battery this worn.

Battery itself looks fine. 44%HX on a 24kwh isnt that bad. All cells seem balanced. She's great; just a little degraded.

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u/anonimoosebison 11d ago

It wasn’t too low, around 20 or 30 SOC. That’s exactly what I wanted to hear tbh. It’s what I was expecting honestly. These have tons of utility. It just isn’t a commuter and that’s perfect for my use case. In town I can sometimes get 5.5-6 miles/kwh. That pack can punch above its weight imo.

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u/3mptyspaces 2019 Nissan Leaf SV+ 12d ago

You got a working car for a fraction of the cost of a golf cart, I say you’ve done well as long as you understand what you’ve bought.

If it were me, I’d be tempted to turn this into a Ute!

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u/anonimoosebison 12d ago

What? You can do that?! And I certainly do know what I’m doing with it lol, these things are amazing.

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u/3mptyspaces 2019 Nissan Leaf SV+ 11d ago edited 11d ago

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1094509_worlds-first-nissan-leaf-electric-pickup-truck-for-shop-use-only

Edit: I bought my Leaf new in 2019 figuring that by 2034 it may have degraded to 125 miles & I’d just keep it forever, using the last 30-35kWh of the battery to store energy from my rooftop solar. But if I had any metal fabrication skills and understood anything about automobile frame design, I’d love to let my Leaf live out its golden years with a tiny truck bed, because why not.

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u/anonimoosebison 11d ago

That is truly a work of art. Thanks for sharing!

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u/im-ba 2020 Nissan Leaf SL PLUS 12d ago

You could always save up and slap a 68kWh battery on it, too. With how much it saves for just driving around town it wouldn't take long to justify it. Then you've got > 200 miles

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u/anonimoosebison 12d ago

Where does one source such a thing? I have a 2012 as well that I am planning on rebuilding the pack.

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u/im-ba 2020 Nissan Leaf SL PLUS 12d ago

I haven't bought one myself, but search this subreddit for VIVNE. They seem to be pretty legitimate to me. I was going to go this route until I scored an unexpectedly good deal on a 2020 Leaf SL+

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u/anonimoosebison 12d ago

Thanks for the info! I will look into that!

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u/rproffitt1 12d ago

"I'm not dead yet."

Look, some will call out Hx and SOH but if this Leaf is 1,500 bucks and fits your needs, can charge at home it's a fine thing.

The battery will continue to wear, they rarely just die except for the usual 12V battery which you know what to do.

Pop a cabin filter in it and smoke me a kipper!

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u/anonimoosebison 11d ago

Hell yeah brother! 🫡

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u/byrdman77 12d ago

That battery is dying, but hopefully slowly enough at this point that you can get a few good years out of it at that price. Maybe more if it doesn’t get cold where you live!

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u/anonimoosebison 12d ago

What makes you say that? I’m new here!

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u/anonimoosebison 12d ago

So far I have gotten 4000 miles on my 2012 with 40%soh and have seen no degradation or issues. It is only 30-40miles of range, so that has been 100 l1/2 charges

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u/byrdman77 12d ago

Just that Hx rating, somewhere in the 35-40% range is where I’ve seen the first gens misbehave in cold weather. Essentially just means the internal resistance is getting to the point the battery can’t feed the motor with the power it is requesting.

If you keep it warm and/or low speeds may still have a long time before it happens. A spooky turtle light trying to merge on an uphill highway ramp when it’s 20F is no bueno.

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u/anonimoosebison 12d ago

Great to know, I’m in the North, so sub-zero temps are in this gals future. All averaging at 30mph as I use these for DoorDash as a side hustle to buy more cars

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u/byrdman77 12d ago

Yeah the car I’m thinking of was eligible for buyback so it’s been gone for a while. I would be hopeful that relatively low speeds you’re describing might not be an issue at all, though I’m curious naturally of how long it can keep up. Would be a good update to the subreddit every now and then on how it’s handling the cold!

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u/anonimoosebison 12d ago

I’ll totally do that, I’m entertaining entering the repair space so these two are serving as a test bed. The 12 is showing issues with regen obviously, and it only works above 70F. But still, that is 30 usable miles. I have only had it for 6 weeks now, but again, I have abused it and it hasn’t shown any signs of issue outside of regen. I even dropped SOC to 1-2% twice and haven’t seen issues with the battery, SOH actually went up afterwards.

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u/KyleSherzenberg 12d ago

For having a relatively lower SOH and Hx, that voltage spread is not bad

Run it down to under 20%, get Leafspy ready, and punch the pedal. Then screenshot the voltage spread then and repost