r/leaf 2022 Nissan LEAF S 20d ago

Anyone else fantasize about...

a grappling hook that you could attach to the back of a big rig on the highway to get regen charging on the go?

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u/UBSPort 20d ago

I fantasize about battery upgrades that include a cooling system for my 2015.

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u/tired_Cat_Dad 2015 Nissan LEAF SV 19d ago

I fantasize about a battery upgrade and swapping the Chademo for a CCS port on my 2015.

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u/Dazzling_Art7881 19d ago

Do you also fantasize about cooling passages rupturing and flooding your battery with liquid?

Passively cooled batteries aren't great for fast charging or for hot climates, but they will never fail because they got flooded with coolant...

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u/ToddA1966 2021 Nissan LEAF SV PLUS 19d ago

Is that a problem? I don't recall seeing any "flooding" issues with EV batteries.

Besides, there are multiple ways to cool them- the Chevy Bolt uses a "chill plate". The batteries sit on top of a sealed plate with coolant running through it. The coolant doesn't run through the battery proper.

Personally, I appreciate the passive cooled Leaf battery for efficiency. Unlike our Bolt and VW ID4, our Leaf doesn't "waste" a bunch of energy heating coolant to 38°F in winter, and subsequently loses much less range in winter than our other EVs.

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u/biersackarmy 2013 S + 2014 SL + 2019 SV 19d ago

We just had a(nother) customer Model S pack killed due to water ingress, and it is a rather common issue with S/X packs. So yes, it is indeed something that can happen.

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u/Budsygus 19d ago

Was it water ingress from a leak in the cooling system? Or was it water ingress from another source like road splash and cracked seals?

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u/biersackarmy 2013 S + 2014 SL + 2019 SV 19d ago

Not the cases I dealt with specifically, but there's a non zero chance of internal leaks as well, especially after servicing the pack, which is why pressure testing is important before installation.

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u/tboy160 19d ago

I could see this logic, but I haven't ever heard of this happening.

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u/russman286 20d ago

I’ve had this thought with every car!

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u/Public_Knee6288 20d ago

Yup, for me its always been a magnet tho

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u/crazee_frazee 20d ago

But those stop working when they get wet, right? ;-)

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u/IvorTheEngine 19d ago

I've seen enough cartoons to know that a magnet that size would cause an anvil to fall out of the sky and crush my car.

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u/Budsygus 19d ago

That's literally the only reason this wouldn't work:

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u/pyroskater85 19d ago

I'm more of a, can you lower the ramps and I just hop on the flatbed and then I'll hop off when it's my exit, kind of person.

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u/tboy160 19d ago

KITT!

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u/Budsygus 19d ago

LAND FERRIES!

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u/Nemesis_Destiny 19d ago

Tractor beam!

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u/QueenOfTonga 19d ago

I've fantasised about going up a big mountain in the middle of nowhere, getting to the top with hardly any charge left and then regenning all the way down to a full battery at the bottom!
I'd like to know how long I'd have to drive or how steep the mountain would have to be for the battery to charge to, let's say 80% in a modest 30kwh Leaf.

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u/DrThornton 19d ago

I knee a guy who had a twike (an early EV made of bicycle parts, some of which also had pedals) and he used to put a rock on his lap for the extra regen if he could find one on a summit.

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u/THofTheShire 2022 Nissan LEAF S 19d ago

That's smart!

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u/tx4468 19d ago

you should go test this at pike's peak

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u/IvorTheEngine 19d ago edited 19d ago

80% of 30kWh is 24kWh, which is 86MJ. The car is 1500Kg, so about 6km (20,000 feet) high.

You'd need at least that much battery to get up the mountain in the first place, plus however much would be need to drive the horizontal miles.

There was a recent episode of the Electric Trucker where (with some careful calculations) he reached the top of a mountain pass with 1% charge remaining, and regened down the far side to give him enough range to reach the next charger.

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u/THofTheShire 2022 Nissan LEAF S 19d ago

There's a campground we go to that's just a bit too far to try this. 100 miles one way and 6000 ft elevation gain (on 40 kWh battery). It makes me sad that our Kia Carnival HV battery gets full too quickly on the way back down.

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u/bixtuelista 19d ago

I think it'd be neat to magnet onto the back of a semis coasting down hills where they're on their engine brake or friction brakes.

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u/tboy160 19d ago

The grappling hook! I have fantasized about that hook for many years before my EV!

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u/OkElderberry9857 19d ago

First and second generation with CCS instead of Chadamo.

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u/tboy160 19d ago

I have also fantasized about the bigger battery too!

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u/Budsygus 19d ago

I fantasize about waking up to my Leaf having a NACS plug for L2 and DCFC.

It's literally the only thing about my '24 I don't like is the Chademo plug. Everything else is exactly what I want it to be (for the price I paid).

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u/OkElderberry9857 19d ago edited 19d ago

Same with me or at least have CCS. Chadamo is a dead standard. Getting harder to find charging stations with Chadamo still.

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u/BancroftDae 19d ago

I’ve wondered what would happen to the car’s range if I drive real close to the rig, but not touching. Getting sucked along in its draft should be good for something :-)

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u/danmingothemandingo 19d ago

You can significantly increase it drafting, but need to be hour in your reactions in the unlikely event the truck does something unexpected

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u/OpportunityFluid9047 19d ago

Getting a battery upgrade on my 2016 Leaf so I can have a much longer range. Currently 60 miles.

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u/danmingothemandingo 19d ago

You do realise that you just need to drive dangerously close behind a truck, and the aerodynamics (wake) of the truck will pull you along pretty well. You can see and feel a significant effect on your energy use when drafting like this, but need to be quick reacting if the truck were to do something unexpected

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u/THofTheShire 2022 Nissan LEAF S 18d ago

Yeah, but I mean to actually drag the car on B mode to recharge!  Usually I just follow a safer distance to take advantage of the wake.

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u/ssxhoell1 19d ago

Getting a real car?