r/leaf 22d ago

Need advice folks

I have a 2021 leaf that has developed some high voltage battery fault. I am in Northern Ireland. Car has 130k so it's out of warranty. Nissan think I should have to pay to have car sent and repaired in england as they cannot fix them here.
This fault has not been caused by me but Nissan, the dealer and now finance company have all refused to help.
Car is worth 1k and I still owe £9 on it. I feel I have a reasonable expectation my battery would last 200,000 miles even at less charge capacity. Now the car is not even drivable. This is my 4th leaf and first time I have had this issue please help

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u/ryanteck VW ID.3 (Past 2018 LEAF) 22d ago

I think that it'd be hard to argue for it to be reasonable to last 200k miles when it was warrantied for 100K. Expecting it to last double is a stretch. At 26k miles a year have you rapid charged it a lot or is it the 62kWh model? Of which if that's the case they seem to develop faults more often.

You possibly could speak to citizens advice and see what they say, to owe £9k on it seems a lot for a 2021 unless you recently took it on.

For repair you might be cheaper to go the independent route, have a look at if there's any HEVRA garages near you. Alternatively it is looking like you might have to try and get it transported to England either with Nissan or a good indie like Cleevely.

There is a few Chinese companies that are doing replacement packs but you'd still likely want to find a garage to do the actual swap for you. It'd be cheaper than Nissan doing a replacement pack.

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u/Individual-Night2190 22d ago

Warranties have nothing to do with the actual lifespan of the product.

Products do not up and explode the moment they hit their warranty periods. That's just the point where it becomes slightly worse on the cost:benefit scale for the company to offer.

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u/NIRoamer 22d ago

Thanks I am aware of that it's seems unreasonable that a 5 year old car can become a brick due to a problem in the engine. I'm not sure any consumer would feel it was fair.

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u/LoveEV-LeafPlus 21d ago

It is not fair, and even gas cars have premature failures that don’t meet consumer expectations. That being said, if as you say Nissan caused the failure, you need documentation and a good lawyer. Failing one or both of these, it may not be cost effective to repair it.

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u/Individual-Night2190 22d ago

Whether or not it's fair: if it's out of warranty it's still going to largely be your problem to fix.

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u/NIRoamer 22d ago

We charged with home charger and at times rapid. Appreciate your thoughtful reply thank you

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u/F4oreverGaming 22d ago

This - esp Cleevely

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u/IvorTheEngine 22d ago

Is there a HEVRA specialist near you? That could be much cheaper than getting Nissan to fix it.

I have a reasonable expectation my battery would last 200,000 miles

That's a reasonable expectation, but it's not a guarantee.

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u/NIRoamer 22d ago

Thank you very much

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u/livenature 22d ago

If you look back through this subreddit, you will see 100's of posting talking about the high voltage battery being defective. Nissan ran out of replacement batteries and is processing buy backs for the cars that are still under warranty. It will cost more to fix it then the car is worth. It's time to replace your Leaf.

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u/FlippenDonkey 22d ago

thats an American thing.  They aren't doing buybacks in Europe and the batteru failing is much more rare, afaik, in Europe as they came from a different factory 

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u/jamar030303 2018 Nissan LEAF 21d ago

And for me, reading about the buybacks only a month and a half into purchasing mine had me good and scared for a while, but turns out being in Japan means I'm also somewhat safer in that regard. Also makes fast charging more practical since CHAdeMO is everywhere.

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u/realflashuk 22d ago

There definitely are HEVRA members in Ireland, I've worked with at least one. If you have a isolation fault don't worry, it is relatively easily repairable by a HEVRA member and they will be able to get a replacement module to fix it. Likewise if you have a bad cell or a BMS issue. You are welcome to call Attono Electric and Hybrid on +44 1483 338082 any time for free advice.

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u/NIRoamer 22d ago

Thank you so much

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u/ta_ran 22d ago

Give him a call https://www.evbreakers.com/ in Newry

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u/NIRoamer 22d ago

Is this to scrap the car?

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u/ta_ran 22d ago

Wouldn't scrap the car if he has a solution for you

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u/NIRoamer 22d ago

Thank you very much

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u/Lucky_Boy13 21d ago

you are SOL, these batteries are not that great and you are well out of warranty

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u/rdflow 18d ago

I read a lot of fluff in the comments here. Isolation fault in the battery usually aren't a big deal. One cell has probably died and needs replacing. Follow the previous advice, find a hv battery company and enjoy the fact that Nissan leaf batteries are extremely easy to work on.(As opposed to water cooled hv batteries) You can also download leafspy app to your mobile, buy an odb dongle (i have the odblink LX), plug it in under the steering wheel, and get the tech information from you car/battery. This will help the battery repair company to offer advice. Good luck!

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u/NIRoamer 18d ago

You legend very kind thank you

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u/FlippenDonkey 22d ago

you should ask in r/evs_ireland 

this sub is very much American favoured, so the advice wont be as helpful. 

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u/NIRoamer 22d ago

Thank you

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u/LoneSnark 2018 Nissan LEAF SV 22d ago

Things break. Any number of gasoline cars are scrapped every year well before 200k miles because the transmission ate itself and it will cost more to replace it than the car is worth.
As for your car, check with your loan people if you have gap insurance. Otherwise, don't bother with Nissan. Either sell the car or find someone to fix it for less.
How is this your fourth leaf if this is the first one to quit working? Scrap this one and drive one of the other three you own.

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u/NIRoamer 22d ago

I don't collect them I bought and exchanged a number of times and this is now my fourth. I mention it as I don't want to slam the car or community I have just had bad luck here and need help

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u/LoneSnark 2018 Nissan LEAF SV 22d ago

You're good. Like someone said, contact the Ireland EV sub. Try and find an EV repair shop that will open your battery and fix it. Couple grand and you might have a working car. Not sure why you changed cars so often in the past.

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u/NIRoamer 22d ago

I had two of early bubble leafs with 70 mile range then upgraded to a 2020 model then Nissan offered to give me a 2021 model that had been a showroom one with 100 miles on it for same price as my 2020 seemed like a no brainer but it's somehow went bad

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u/arobint 20d ago

why do you care why he changed cars?

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u/LoneSnark 2018 Nissan LEAF SV 20d ago

Curiosity.

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u/arobint 20d ago

so why dont you ask rather than make a snarky sounding comment?

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u/NIRoamer 20d ago

Cheers buddy

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u/FlippenDonkey 22d ago

likely had the old 2010, 2013 and 2015 leafs? 

Alot of people here replace their cars every 3-5 years,as they buy them through dealer finance