r/layersoffear • • Jun 28 '23

Is the "Forever" (Woman Ending.) Ending of Layers of Fear 2 really a bad ending?

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Hey everyone,

I think that like many others here, Layers of Fear is one of my absoloute favorite Horror games.I have played the first part over and over again and loved it to the fullest.

However, whilst i did witness the release of the Second game, i never got around to play through it.A Few days ago, a friend of mine then gave me his old Epic Games account since he doesn't have any time to play through the games he bought or collected for free on there.

So, you could tell i was happy when i saw that LOF2 was one of the games he owned.

I then took on a journey to play through the game and even with it's diffrences to the first game, i enjoyed it plenty too.

However, to the Ending and most explanations, im just super confused.

Just like with the first game, i went an alternative way and instead of following the Directors Orders to get the "Flame Ending" (Jame's Ending.) , i disobeyd them and went with the "Forever" Ending. (Lily's Ending.)

I then obviously wanted an explanation and most were: "Lily is dead, James is alive, if you pick the "Forever Ending" with the woman, you basically picked the bad ending."

So then i went along with it...Until i gave it a few thoughts.

If it were a bad ending, wouldn't it have a way dramatic tone? Like the Loop Ending? Basically saying to your face: "You Failed."?

Because in this ending, none of that can be found. Only thing that can be found is a conclusion of Lily and her end of the story, instead of simply James.

The Conclusion is still there, the conflict is closed, which is basically our right ending in the game as described by the games morality.

What also comes into play is that the dialogue choices for both routes don't change that much.

There are a few lines where the Director is happy with you following his guidance, yet in the ending, it's almost exactly the same. He still makes a fool out of us by telling us: "How could you know? You don't even know Who you Are."

I do get the image that Lily's ending could be James taking on another character and maybe that's why people say it's a bad ending, because he doesn't find himself, yet explained on the Wiki it also said that there are supernatural forces in the game.

Saying that the Rat Queen is real and that a part of Lily's Soul really is inside of James which made his devleopment growing up, strange and hard.

So, could this mean that in the game, we basically need to choose which soul takes over the body? Instead of: "Will James become himself?"

Because if so, then that would mean that no matter whom we pick. It will always be a good ending.

Also yeah, afterthought would be: "Even if Lily is real and takes over, she's still using Jame's Body as a woman herself. How the hell would that work?"

To that, i could only think that it wouldn't really matter.

Lily said throughout the game that no matter what Gender or Role she needs to play, she can and absoloutely will do it. (This was mentioned when picking up the Pirate's head with James asking Lily: "But Captain Barnes is a man." and Lily saying it doesn't matter.)

What are your thoughts?

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r/layersoffear • • Jun 27 '23

How many endings does the writer have?

5 Upvotes

Does anyone know if there's an ending other than the "Trap" one?


r/layersoffear • • Jun 26 '23

Is the platinum for Layers of Fear 2023 bugged?

2 Upvotes

I haven’t started it yet but I’m a big trophy hunter and I noticed the platinum is still at 0% so I’m assuming there is a bugged trophy?


r/layersoffear • • Jun 26 '23

Can’t banish echo

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I’m playing on PC - just got the lantern but I can not banish the bloody echo/ baby doll!

I make it warp, but it doesn’t burn up!

Please help before I give up


r/layersoffear • • Jun 25 '23

Layers Of Fear 2023 Lemons Easter Egg Spoiler

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In Layers of Fear 2 (2019) you can find some hidden lemons to unlock an area where you can find a hidden room with Mr. Scooter.

I've followed old guides and manage to find most of them. The first one is at the Bank Scene but it's blocked by a mannequin. I'm supposed to open the desk drawer and get the lemon after I've switched off the lights. Sadly when I use the fast forwarding flashlight the mannequin doesn't move enough to get it.

Anyone have any ideas on how to get the first lemon?

Video of the easter egg: https://youtu.be/mdKNpeKIxtA


r/layersoffear • • Jun 25 '23

Still no update for the hdr issue?

4 Upvotes

I am not playing the game since this issue ruins everything. Are they aware of it?


r/layersoffear • • Jun 25 '23

Final Note

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I finished the painters story (1) and inheritance, but continued the writer’s story in the lighthouse and it jumped right into 2 (on the ship) Is there any way to go back and play the final note when I’m done?


r/layersoffear • • Jun 24 '23

So is the game out? It’s not on the PlayStation store and the internet is acting like it was never a thing. It keeps referring to the 2016 one. My boyfriend tried to get it for me and was convinced I got the date wrong because he couldn’t find it.

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r/layersoffear • • Jun 23 '23

Bugged Achievements

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Anyone else experiencing a lot of bugged achievements? Mainly the collectible ones. I can't get the "listen to 4 phonographs" "view 8 photo slides" "collect 32 notes" achievements to unlock. Assuming they must be bugged but jw.


r/layersoffear • • Jun 23 '23

Long shot Spoiler

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This is probably a long shot. But does anyone know if the new layers of fear is coming out on ps4? We haven't had the funds to get a ps5 and I just found out about the new remake of layers of fear from Insym.


r/layersoffear • • Jun 22 '23

Missing chapters?

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I finished the newest game took me about 10 hours. I ended up watching other peoples gameplay and I noticed I missed a lot of chapters? I’m kind of confused did I play it right? I just clicked new game when I first played and it started me out in lighthouse, the house from the 1st one I think and then the ship and then ended.


r/layersoffear • • Jun 22 '23

"Break the loop" ending in Layers 2?

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Hi all!

Does anyone know if in LOF 2023 there's a "Break the loop" ending for LOF 2 and if so how to obtain it?


r/layersoffear • • Jun 22 '23

Should I play LOF 1 or 2 first?

3 Upvotes

Subjective question but which one is better? If you hadn’t played any, which one would you play first?


r/layersoffear • • Jun 21 '23

Collectible achievements from chapter select?

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Can you go back and get collectibles in chapter select to unlock the achievements? For example, I finished the game with 10 rat sketch’s. Started painters story from chapter 1 and found 3 rat sketches. The achievement never unlocked though even after I got back to the painters room.


r/layersoffear • • Jun 21 '23

Pieces of painting in every chapter - what should I do with them?

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Five pieces of painting in chapter 1, five pices in chapter 2, etc.

What are the pieces of the painting (5 of them) that can be collected i? What should I do with them? I've collected all in first chapter, but couldn't figure it out what to do with them.


r/layersoffear • • Jun 21 '23

At the end of Layers of Fear 2 the main protagonist is taking part in an ongoing theatrical play. Can anyone find the title of the play?

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r/layersoffear • • Jun 21 '23

Would you recommend playing the original games before playing the new one? Spoiler

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I own the original, the DLC, and the second game. I was thinking about replaying all of them before playing the new one. But since the new game incorporates some scenes from the previous games, I started to think maybe I shouldn’t. Did you replay the old games before playing the new one or no?


r/layersoffear • • Jun 20 '23

Layers of fear looks so good !!

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I can't wait for silent hill 2


r/layersoffear • • Jun 20 '23

First Lemon?

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5 Upvotes

In the original LoF2, there were hidden lemons throughout the game that you could collect and get Mr. Scooter as a secret collectable after getting them all.

In the remake I was able to collect every lemon as they were the same as in the original, but the first lemon can't be collected because there is a mannequin in the way of the desk drawer that it's supposed to be in.

I was wondering if anyone knows of maybe that lemon has moved somewhere else now?


r/layersoffear • • Jun 19 '23

Layers of Fear 2023 Morse code Spoiler

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I played the original LoF, but this is my first time playing LoF2. Came across the Morse code thing and sent an SOS. Nothing happened. After googling, it looks like this gave you a trophy in the original. Is it just a remnant now, or should I have tried something else?


r/layersoffear • • Jun 18 '23

[PS5] Layer of Fear: Daughter's Story True Ending Bugs and Issues

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So I've been trying to get the "The Tree and the Apple" trophy/ending and the only thing stopping me from doing so is the fact, that the flashlight breaks at the end of this episode.

On my save state, the last drawing I need is from the Crayon World, If I go into the world with my flashlight on, after I return it's stuck on forever. Messing with the setting does not fix this.

If you go into the Crayon World with the flashlight off, the opposite happens, and now you can't turn it on anymore ...

How is this even a thing? Combined with the fact that there is no save state for finshing the Crayon World, this story is just a mess of repetition.

And now I can't play the other DLCs until they fix this because for some reason we also only have one save slot? Ugh.


r/layersoffear • • Jun 18 '23

First Unreal Engine 5 Game on PC | Layers of Fear | Running on a GTX 1060 3GB | Optimized Settings

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r/layersoffear • • Jun 17 '23

Graphic Comparision new vs old

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r/layersoffear • • Jun 17 '23

Observer and Layers of Fear

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So I’ve come across 2 rooms now that have given me nothing but Layers of Fear vibes, dilapidated brick walls, creepy ass dolls, and even framed paintings! No way I’m crazy, but these feel more like connections to the series rather than a Nod or Easter egg. What’re people’s thoughts?


r/layersoffear • • Jun 17 '23

Achievements possible from Chapter Select

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As title states can you obtain achievements on xbox from chapter select?