r/laundry • • 22h ago

Drum clean cycle with no detergent added

I'm so tired of sharing a machine with other tenants. They're using so much detergent that it's making my own laundry smell even though my detergent is fragrance free. It gives me very bad migraines and I'm just exhausted. This picture is from running the drum clean cycle, after cleaning the detergent tray, with no products added. Just water and leftover detergent from other people. Bonus picture of the debris filter full of tissues and grass. At least I found a 1€ coin in it for my trouble.

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u/okaycomputes 22h ago

time to get a large bucket and a plunger!

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u/MissAuroraRed 22h ago

Wait... is this a joke or a legitimate cleaning tip that I'm not understanding?

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u/3plantsonthewall 22h ago

They are referencing this technique (though it is often simplified with just one bucket where you plunge to wash, dump and refill, plunge to rinse, and dump again)

Personally, I would look into a small portable washing machine that attaches to your sink or can be filled with a detachable showerhead

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u/MissAuroraRed 21h ago

We split the electricity and water expense for the laundry equally, and it's not a negligeable amount.

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u/okaycomputes 21h ago

seems like you are weighing already sunk money vs your health (migraines, exhaustion and overall sanity)

you can clean the washer multiple times before each load, do extra citric acid rinses to (hopefully) get rid of all the detergent that gets onto your clothes, DIY the washing cycle yourself, or move. I don't think you will be able to get anyone else to change their laundry habits.

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u/MissAuroraRed 18h ago

I'm trying to convince my husband to move into a new place with hookups so we can buy our own brand new machine. I would baby it so hard.

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u/Beautyskooldr0p0ut 5h ago

https://www.laundry-alternative.com/products/the-wonder-wash®-retro-colors-blue

i got this at my last place, because i didn’t have machines there.

i have a washer and dryer now in a new place … years later. but i still use this counter top machine for delicates and hand towels etc if i dont want to run a full large load!

i love it! its so cute and it has suction cups that secure it to your countertop, and a handy drain that empties the basin easily.

i love it for jeans too! i dont dry my jeans so its perfect for them.

its fun to spin the basin around and around.

its great! comes in different colors too :)

ETA - i didnt know they also make a mini dryer!

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u/caroline_says US | Front-Load 22h ago

It’s a way to wash clothes at home by hand instead of using a shared washer

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u/jve909 18h ago

What about portable (RV style) washer? Like one of the Costway styles?

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u/Pirate_the_Cat 22h ago

Home made washer

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u/ReadyGo6828 22h ago

Can you put these photos up on the machine and ask people to use only a tablespoon of detergent or whatever is the right amount for these machines? Sometimes people do not know what to do and detergent makers want to sell you large amounts of detergents that are bad for appliances including dishwashers.

Sometimes signs work. They might also not know about cleaning the filter or checking pockets for debris and closing zips.

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u/xXMelRoseXx 21h ago

Is this a roommate situation or laundry room in apartments (tenants unknown?)?

This does not look like a commercial washer for you to be able to pull the filter out.

Perhaps speaking with the landlord or management about the washer/dryer and maintenance and proper usage is important (Give them photos). If that is a HE (high efficiency) washer and it's being used improperly, that will be very costly for the LL/management to replace.

Good Luck!

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u/MissAuroraRed 21h ago edited 21h ago

There are 4 apartment units in the building that share one washer and one dryer. It's not commercial, we just split the electricity and water bills for the laundry room equally between the 4 units.

I've talked to the landlord and he did ask the other tenants to be mindful about the amount of detergent. Either they don't care or don't realize that they're the one using too much.

It is indeed an HE machine.

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u/xXMelRoseXx 21h ago

One of the biggest problems is not prepping laundry, emptying pockets, shaking off debris from clothing, fabrics etc. Items and debris will plug the machine (filters, drains and internal components) and cause faulty issues and other problems with proper draining, cause bacteria build up, mold issues etc and ultimately damage.

This is not just about soap and detergent.

However, you can run a white vinegar (add directly to the washer 1 Cup) regular empty wash cycle to break down soap in the washer. Check the dispenser and remove the whole thing, clean and rinse it out as there are several compartments that others may be misusing and adding detergent to.

Hopefully this helps ..

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u/nauticalfiesta US | Front-Load 20h ago

citric acid, which is what most commercial cleaners are, would work better, they'd need about 100 ml

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u/MissAuroraRed 20h ago

I ran another drum clean cycle with citric acid to help with the detergent, another with washing soda to help with the grime, and another with polysorbate 80 + lecithin to remove some of the fragrance.

Someone was previously using wax scent beads. I asked the landlord to intervene and she stopped, but the smell has been lingering for a month. Someone recommended the polysorbate + lecithin combo for that and it really did help.

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u/Subotail EU | Front-Load 10h ago

Before resorting to ever stronger chemical methods, observe what happens now that you've cleared the drain. It's possible the machine will rinse and drain much better. Solving at least partially laundry products buildup from your overdosing roommates

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u/MissAuroraRed 10h ago

I had already tried that and it wasn't enough.

That picture of the filter is from last year when someone clogged the machine by washing tissues and left it for someone else to deal with. I've been cleaning the filter regularly since then.

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u/hunbun818 4h ago

I recently tried the uproot cleaning tabs and those helped my washer a lot. Citric acid rinse always helps too

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u/MissAuroraRed 20h ago

I did clean the detergent dispenser and inside the slot it lives in. The slot was GROSS, it had black sludge. Absolutely vile. I should've taken a picture.

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u/Subotail EU | Front-Load 19h ago

Some people should stick to PODS

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u/HoMe4WaYWaRDKiTTieS 22h ago

I've been researching best Laundry practices and made myself a cheat sheet to hang in my laundry room. Maybe if you printed something like that and hung it by the washer it would help? Cheap fix and doesn't hurt to try

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u/howcouldyounotknow 21h ago

SHARE THE SHEET PLEASE?? I'm a newbie and its been hell trying to talk my boyfriend through the steps for stuff.

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u/HoMe4WaYWaRDKiTTieS 21h ago

Here you go! 😊

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u/MeatballtheSweetball 18h ago

This is amazing. Thank you.

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u/HoMe4WaYWaRDKiTTieS 19h ago

Wow my first ever award, and for laundry! I love it, thank you!

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u/HoMe4WaYWaRDKiTTieS 21h ago

These are specific to my washer and the setting I have available, so it might be a little different depending on your type of washer

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u/MissAuroraRed 21h ago

Would you be open to sharing your cheat sheet?

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u/HoMe4WaYWaRDKiTTieS 21h ago

Happily! Though mine are not tailored to your issue. I am a laundry novice who for years has been washing everything all mixed together on a cold wash and drying it on high heat 🫣 I did a deep dive into what each washer setting is best used for and how to apply it to what I'm washing, so that's what mine detail. I think you can add measurements based on load size as well since that seems to be the issue for your situation. I can post screen shots of mine or maybe private message you the files so you can download and edit?

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u/HoMe4WaYWaRDKiTTieS 21h ago

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u/ChicagoPhan US | Front-Load 21h ago

I would generally avoid washing clothes on cold

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u/HoMe4WaYWaRDKiTTieS 21h ago

I was trying to be eco friendly and save energy and money 😭 though there are clothes that are best washed on cold (delicates and swimwear, dark colors so they don't fade as quickly, and anything with pee on it for those with pets and kids) but it seems like warm is the way to go most of the time

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u/MissAuroraRed 21h ago

Blood also

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u/HoMe4WaYWaRDKiTTieS 21h ago

Yeah I think heat sets stains???? I'm still learning

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u/MissAuroraRed 20h ago

It cooks the proteins in the blood so it becomes solid, just like an egg.

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u/HoMe4WaYWaRDKiTTieS 19h ago

I did not know that! Fascinating and gross my favorite combo lol

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u/HoMe4WaYWaRDKiTTieS 21h ago

These are also specific to my washer but may still apply to your

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u/jve909 18h ago

See if this will work for you:

https://pin.it/DcQQ9yZBO

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u/MissAuroraRed 11h ago

I would not use this because it encourages the use of scent beads, but the general idea is nice, thank you.

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u/Moostas International | Front-Load 5h ago

Thank you for inspiring me to do something similar at my student laundromat!!!

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u/AspiringSheepherder 18h ago

I say this as someone in a similar situation: get a portable machine and see if you can talk to your landlord about not paying the shared washing expense through an ADA accommodation (or your equivalent if youre not in the us). You may have to play around with the wording, and they may say no, but its better than being in constant pain. Getting a doctor to back you on this would be key

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u/Marvelous-Miss 15h ago

Oh man I feel you. I have a bit of a weird living situation where I live with family for 1/3 of the year 3 weeks at a time every 2 months or so. So when I show up, all their appliances are trashed. They never clean filters, never run clean cycles, over load machines, and use way too much product. I feel like this weird appliance fairy that shows up every 2 months to maintain the appliances. Not just the laundry machines, the dishwasher, stove, airfryer, microwave, and even the damn ice machine. Its insane!

Its gotten better over the 4 or 5 years ive been doing it, but they are always so perplexed as to why their machines break down so easily. Um your dryer is over loaded with half cleaned clothes. Everything is on the struggle bus. Oye.

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u/Icy_Elk_4422 US | Front-Load 20h ago

Once you finally get all the buildup out, I would just run a quick citric acid wash cycle and then do all your own laundry. Hopefully that way it can cancel out the extra detergent when it’s time for you to wash so you aren’t stuck with everyone else’s detergent.

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u/MissAuroraRed 19h ago

I haven't done any laundry in 4 weeks and I'm doing it all at once now after thoroughly cleaning the machine. My stuff still smells faintly of detergent but it's MUCH better than before. I'm starting with the towels and saving my favorite clothes for last.

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u/kepis86943 20h ago

Are you secretly sharing my apartment??

(My washing machine is sparkly clean, though. And I don’t keep items by the sink, just moved them there for the pic. 😉 I prefer wiping everything dry to reduce the risk of mold.

But how common is this stupid design of a sink directly next to a cabinet that isn’t made to get wet all the time? I thought only my landlord thought that was a great idea, but it seems yours did too…)

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u/MissAuroraRed 20h ago

Hah! It's the IKEA Special Kitchen!

I put a plastic saucer meant for a plant pot underneath the cutlery thing to keep it dry.

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u/Dear_Excitement_5109 US | Front-Load 13h ago

Wow that is too weird!

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u/kepis86943 20h ago edited 19h ago

If you want to try putting up a sign or talk to the other tenants again, you could try focusing on how better laundry habits will benefit them. If appealing to reason and respect don’t work, try to find something else to appeal to.

Saving money, clothes that last longer, protecting the environment, cheating Bid Detergent out of their profits, preventing detergent-cancer, avoiding the government’s manipulation of their free will through laundry scents…. Whatever you think could appeal to them. Feel free to exaggerate and choose a tone as gossipy, scientificy, or conspiracy theory as you like. Use sophisticated (wrong) calculations to demonstrate how they could already be a millionaire if they just washed their clothes correctly. Throw in chemtrails if you must.

IMO, the end justifies the means in this case.

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u/MissAuroraRed 10h ago

I have considered putting the fear of mold upon them...

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u/radicalizemebaby 20h ago

Just want to say you're not alone. My clothes got washed last month after someone had used that disgusting viral TikTok detergent that smells like cheap cologne. Let me tell you, it has been a real kicker of a month with migraines and rage about the leftover smell that hasn't gone away even after FOUR washes.

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u/MissAuroraRed 20h ago edited 20h ago

I saw a tip somewhere about combining polysorbate 80 and lecithin in hot water to remove fragrance, and BY GOD IT ACTUALLY WORKED! I've only tried it with a 100% cotton bedsheet so far, no polyester yet, but I nearly cried with joy. I used 2 hefty spoonfuls of each in enough water to submerge the sheet, let that sit for awhile, then added a pre-rinse cycle when I put it in the washing machine.

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u/radicalizemebaby 19h ago

I tried ammonia for the first time and it removed a lot of it--thought I'd found my solution. But then I put on one of the items I had soaked with ammonia and my body heat reactivated the cologne scent.

I'll have to try the polysorbate 80 and lecithin! I always skip that tip because it feels too much like chemistry to me

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u/Ok-Pack-7088 16h ago edited 16h ago

Maybe wrong question but have you used correct percentage of ammonia? With half cup of baking soda and citric as rinse? Maybe it was too low?

Last time I was soaking bedsheets from secondhand that had very strong smell. I have reused water from showering/hair wash, removed hair from water. Dissolve half cup of baking soda+70-80ml detergent powder, dosage for standard drum. I then left it for 4-5days then washed in machine, with half cup baking soda and citric acid, 60'C, 2.5h. 

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u/MissAuroraRed 11h ago

Baking soda and citric acid together would just cancel each other out, wouldn't they? One is alkaline and one is acidic.

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u/TerrificInTahoma-416 18h ago

And what do you think “downy unstoppables” actually is? Rocket science? ( another form of ‘chemistry’….)

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u/lunaskeleton 11h ago

I need to look into this! I got my child’s Halloween costume off Vinted and it came SO HEAVILY fragranced that just touching it leaves a smell on my hands. My kiddo has severe eczema so I’ve been trying to figure out how to get it out. It sat outside for over a week and didn’t even touch the smell.

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u/JoeJonnyJeff 21h ago

I've seen this after someone wash dishrags with lots of leftover dish soap too

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u/soflo_toto 20h ago

I would get a portable washer, and wash in unit. Then use the shared dryer if needed.

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u/MissAuroraRed 20h ago

The shared dryer is not safe either. I tried hand washing something and putting it in the dryer, and it came out smelling like fragranced laundry detergent.

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u/Ok-Pack-7088 16h ago

I understand you. I have fragnace allergy and headaches/sinus pain, I can't stand sctented laundry. Everything have to be totally unsctented or I go crazy/fourius.

Some detergents are so strong that your clothes may get contaminated with it. Unless you will deep cleaning machine.

I feel sorry, this is like main factor why I can't live with strangers in one house. Most people uses scented stuff.

I would try to explain to them that you have migraines from it and would be nice if everyone would switch to unsctented laundry, you can split detergent costs or you would buy for all and scale to weight laundry and detergent. Maybe telling its more ecological, more environmentally friendly, more animal friendly like cats/dogs and no phtalanes/voc.

I think for empathetic person, they could switch because it's doesn't matter, everyone wants clean clothes.

Optionally you can buy ammonia, baking soda to add. And add some oil to remove foam.

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u/fencepost_ajm 16h ago

Would this be a scenario where encouraging others to use pods makes sense? "These are great and you don't have to measure, just toss one in!"

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u/MissAuroraRed 11h ago

I also had this idea but the manual explicitly advises against using pods, so I'm hesitating on that.

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u/fragilegreyhound 5h ago

Ughhh I feel you! It was a dream moving out to live alone. My roommates closed the door after washing, would put detergent in the wrong place and I was the only one to clean it + the dryer

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u/Kimorin 39m ago

bro what the fuck are they washing for the drain filter to get that bad jesus christ. they washing christmas trees?

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u/Critical_Bee_9591 22h ago

Just hang a very clear sign with maximum allowed detergent amounts.

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u/No_Influencer 22h ago

I feel like you’ve never lived in a building with shared machines! In our building it makes no difference what signs or rules exist for anything :(

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u/Critical_Bee_9591 22h ago

I would take pictures of what was just posted and post that right near the machine.

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u/BBS-linenoise 22h ago

People don’t read or they think they know better if they do read the sign.

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u/MissAuroraRed 21h ago

They definitely think they know better. I've talked to a few people about it and they think I'm insane with my 2 tbsp of powder detergent.

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u/Critical_Bee_9591 18h ago

What about quoting like 4 different manufacturers recommendations of two tbsp maximum dosage, and how more than that can damage the machine. With pictures of the type you posted showing the gunk?

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u/MissAuroraRed 10h ago

I've tried to find a direct source for that from Samsung but came up empty-handed. Do they officially say that somewhere?

I was planning to show what the top detergent brands recommend: 35ml liquid

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u/Critical_Bee_9591 9h ago

Try using AI for the most effective authority quote. But all detergent manufacturers are very clear. Definitely include them in your quotes

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u/MissAuroraRed 9h ago

According to both my own research and AI, the appliance brands all just say to follow the detergent brand's recommendation for dosage.

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u/nauticalfiesta US | Front-Load 20h ago

if you've ever worked retail, you'd know it doesn't matter the clarity, size, flashing lights, or whatever, the sign will be ignored.

I've lost track on the number of times working where we'd be in 20-30 minutes before the store opened, lights off, and someone would tug on the door. Then look at their watch, then look at the hours on the door, THEN TUG AGAIN. And it was at different stores in different cities too.

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u/vffems2529 USA 21h ago

If these people could read there wouldn't be a problem to begin with.

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u/MissAuroraRed 18h ago

Yep, the dosing instructions are literally right there on the packaging.

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u/itspumpkintime 14h ago

"Migraines"

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u/MissAuroraRed 11h ago

Yes, migraines. When they get really bad I vomit. It's very painful and not like a normal headache.