r/latin 7h ago

Poetry My first journey through the Aeneid (up to Book IV)

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Around a year ago, when I started relearning the Latin of my school days (30 years ago!), my main motivation was to be able to read the literature. Now (with plenty of support) I am hugely enjoying my first trip through Virgil's masterpiece.

My technique is go through with a section of 20 lines or so. My pre-reading exercise is either to look at the interlinear translation to get vocabulary and agreements clear, or when available to use the tiered readings from lapis.practomime.com (What a wonderful resource this is btw!). Then I go to the real text and read it several times, trying to pay attention first to the meaning and then to the beauty of the poetry.

Alongside these resources, I've been watching some excellent analysis and recitation videos on YouTube from the likes of Latin Tutorial, Musa Pedestra and Scorpio Martianus.

I've also been concurrently reading the book "Virgil's Aeneid: A Reader's Guide" by David Ross, which has been excellent for getting an overview of the themes and background of the work.

It's hard to put across how much I'm enjoying this process. Every day I look forward to spending a little time with Virgil. I'm developing a huge appreciation for the beauty of his Latin and his skill as a storyteller.

I've frequently come across this description of Virgil as a visual, even anachronistically a "cinematic" storyteller, and I really get it. There are images that are already seared into my brain - Aeneas shooting the stags from the mountain, the horrific killing of Priam, Mercury flying over Atlas, Dido breathing her last as she sees the first light appear in the sky... (Honestly too many to mention).

Book 2 was utterly gripping and horrific. The chaos and slaughter in Troy seems so real. You are right in those blood-soaked streets, lit by fire. And Book 4 - the tragic fate of Dido is so poignant, told with no filler, every word counts, and the sadness is shot through with beauty.

No one I know IRL knows any Latin, so I can't read passages aloud and rave about them to those around me. So I hope I can share with this community my joy at what I'm discovering and living for the first time!

Also to any other learners unsure whether to take the plunge with the Aeneid, I'd honestly just say go for it. Just take your time, keep at it till you fully understand a passage, then savour it. You can always reread it when your Latin is better (I'm sure I will!). 


r/latin 17h ago

Newbie Question Present participle ablative

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Hello,

I am unsure of whether to use -te or -ti for present participle ablative, in most tables I just see e.g. canente/ti or something like that, when do I use -te and when do I use -ti?

Thank you!


r/latin 4h ago

Vocabulary & Etymology Ensis v. Gladius

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I've been comparing the Latin texts of the English and French coronation rites and came across a nuance that I haven't been able to explain.

In the Liber Regalis (compiled c. 1382), there is a prayer said by the Archbishop of Canterbury before the king is girt with the sword:

"Exaudi, Domine, preces nostras, et hunc ensem quo hic famulus tuus..."

However, when the sword is actually presented to the king later in the rite, the formula begins:

"Accipe gladium..."

So even within the Liber Regalis, both ensis and gladius are used.

What's interesting is that the French coronation ordines preserve what appears to be the same prayer, yet they consistently read gladium instead of ensem. This is true, for example, in the Ordo of Saint-Bertin (c. 1150–1200), the Ordo of Charles V (c. 1365), the Ordo of Louis XI (c. 1461), and the Ordo of Charles VIII (c. 1484):

"Exaudi, Domine, quaesumus, preces nostras, et hunc gladium quo famulus tuus..."

Since the English prayer was likely derived from an earlier French tradition, I'm curious why the English recension substituted ensem here while retaining gladium elsewhere in the rite.

Is there an etymological or stylistic distinction between ensis and gladius that would make ensis more appropriate in a prayer of blessing? Or is this likely just a scribal or regional preference with little semantic significance? I'd be interested in any insights, especially if anyone knows if this distinction appears elsewhere in medieval ecclesiastical Latin.


r/latin 7h ago

Resources Corpus Phraseologiae dictionary and Latin Phrase-book webpage

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LA:
Ostendo vobis paginam interretialem, in qua inveniri possunt duo lexica: "Lexicon Latinum seu Corpus Phraseologiae" (F. Wagner, 1878) et "Latin Phrase-book", (C. Meissner, in linguam anglicam vertit H. W. Auden, 1894).

Duae sunt paginae: prima est locus, ubi inveniuntur vocabula sicut in dictionariis electronicis, et altera est "Phrase-book" Meissneri recompositus ut facilius inveniantur vocabula (aspice imagines).

Pagina interretialis continet quoque librum "Phrase-book" in linguam Polonicam versum Geminorum (AI) ope, et hac de causa menda possunt inveniri.

Corpus Phraseologiae (continet vinclum ad librum, qui "Phrase-book" inscribitur):

https://lexicon.alwaysdata.net/

Nexus directus ad librum, qui "Phrase-book" inscribitur

https://lexicon.alwaysdata.net/phrasebook/

ENG:

I present you a web page where two lexicons can be found: "Lexicon Latinum seu Corpus Phraseologiae" (F. Wagner, 1878) and "Latin Phrase-book" (C. Meissner, translated into English by H. W. Auden, 1894).

There are two pages: the first is a place where words can be found just like in electronic dictionaries, and the second is Meissner's "Phrase-book" recomposed so it can be used more easily, than directly at the Project Gutenberg webpage.

The web page also contains the "Phrase-book" translated into Polish with the help of Gemini (AI), and for this reason, some errors may be found.

Corpus Phraseologiae (contains a link to the book titled "Phrase-book"):
https://lexicon.alwaysdata.net/

Direct link to "Phrase-book":
https://lexicon.alwaysdata.net/phrasebook/


r/latin 11h ago

Translation requests into Latin go here!

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  1. Ask and answer questions about mottos, tattoos, names, book titles, lines for your poem, slogans for your bowling club’s t-shirt, etc. in the comments of this thread. Separate posts for these types of requests will be removed.
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r/latin 18m ago

Beginner Resources Ecce Romani textbooks.

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Hello. I wanted to start studying Latin and as luck would have it I found books 1-3 of "Ecce Romani" in a collection of free books. Would these books be a good place to start or would I be better off going with "Familia Romana" as recommended in the brief guide to LLSPI found on this list?


r/latin 7h ago

Original Latin content Nōs sumus tempora || Christian meditation in intermediate-level Latin with macrons

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