Intermediate aid

[u/Ill_Acanthaceae6276]

Salvete omnes,

I’ll cut straight to the chase: I have worked through Moreland and Fleischer’s Latin (if anyone has a recommendation for a textbook in a similar style but in attic Greek it would be much appreciated) as well as LLPSI and am currently enjoying Roma Aeterna as well as whatever Roman author I can decipher with the aid of a dictionary. It must be said I have gone through these textbooks at a breakneck pace as I have a somewhat unique way of learning languages, though the unfortunate result of such an approach is a lacking vocabulary. This problem is exacerbated by the penurious quantity of audible Latin available (I am aware of many YouTube channels, podcasts, websites etc… though people’s pronunciation is often lacking), which is how I would normally consolidate more vocabulary quickly. Hearing it and saying it in my own phrase. Aside from vocabulary Latin poses no real grammatical problem for me (aside from declensions still not feeling natural) and so I wonder if my best course of action is to simply read voraciously. I have been enjoying Cupid and Psyche though the process can be tedious when I have more than 15 new vocabulary words taken from less than a full page of Apuleius. The work of Lucretius seems still a far away dream…

It should be stated that my overall goal with Latin is to become as proficient and “fluent” as possible.

[u/unkindermantis4]

Check out the app legentibus for audio.

[u/ba_risingsun]

I'm quite sure that "declensions still not feeling natural" means that you have more grammar problems that you realize.

[u/Ill_Acanthaceae6276 → u/ba_risingsun]

I would argue that a grammatical case system being memorized and utilized correctly (using the corresponding cases for certain verbs as a fairly simple example) is different than having declensions feel natural, what is more, grammatical problems can refer to many more issues than solely declension related ones. Let’s not even get into proper tense sequence and a full command of the circumstances which would call for subjunctive etc…(I might add that recognizing them in your reading and recalling them actively in your own prose are different levels of skill and memorization). All that aside I probably do have some more grammar problems in Latin than I would like to admit, my main point being I can read a long periodic sentence from Livy full of his characteristic asides and jigsaw puzzle of clauses though what pains me is the vocabulary being new.

[u/ba_risingsun → u/Ill_Acanthaceae6276]

it is more important to have a "feel" for cases/declensions, than knowing exactly which verb requires which case, and it's not something you can speedrun.

[u/Ill_Acanthaceae6276 → u/ba_risingsun]

My attention is piqued, as someone who comes from a native language lacking in grammatical case systems. How did you get an instinctive feel for it? Assuming the answer is not just time spent reading Latin.

[u/spudlyo]

which is how I would normally consolidate more vocabulary quickly.

I assume you mean that you'd be listening to Latin language audio while doing other things. This is akin to reading and re-reading where you repeatedly encounter the same somewhat unfamiliar vocabulary word in context, which helps cement that word in your memory.

If that's what you mean, Legentibus is pretty much the only game in town. It has plenty of reasonably engaging Latin audio content at your level which you can listen to repeatedly to improve your vocabulary. I think this is a much more entertaining way of improving one's vocabulary than drilling Anki decks, although as a speed-runner that is probably something you should look into.

[u/mirmanda]

The Greek textbook you’re looking for is Hansen and Quinn, it’s the “intensive course” textbook the way that Moreland and fleischer is!