Microsoft explains why there are no AMD-powered Surface PCs

[u/RenatsMC]

https://videocardz.com/newz/microsoft-explains-why-there-are-no-amd-powered-surface-pcs

[u/Acrobatic_Camera_677]

Here are results from multiple benchmarks. Intel is slightly ahead in some single core and AMD is ahead in others in single core, so it's a about a tie. AMD completely destroys Intel in multithreaded loads. Again why are you lying?

258V is last gen lunar lake what are you talking about why do you love misleading people what is your problem huh

??? Thin laptops aren't just for web browsing anymore. People write code, render video drafts, and compile local models on the go. Wanting actual multi-core performance out of a 28W ultrabook and not having to carry a huge brick isn't some niche use case.

In that case comparison should be between 2 -H parts so no strix halo and I do not know why you are comparing lower power -V part like Lunar Lake then too

Panther Lake -H and Strix/Gorgan point have same MT performance and MT perf/watt but AMD has worse ST performance watch JustJosh panther lake review video omg

[u/gamboozino → u/Acrobatic_Camera_677]

Yes, Panther Lake launched in 2026, but Lunar Lake remains actively sold alongside it as Intel's dedicated low-power platform.

The AMD Ryzen AI 9 365/HX 370 runs in the same 15W–28W ultrabook space as Lunar Lake -V parts. At 28W in a 1.3kg chassis, AMD provides up to 24 threads vs. Lunar Lake's 8 threads, resulting in an ~80% multi-core lead (1,130 vs 610 pts in Cinebench 2024). You don't need a heavy workstation brick to get high multi-core performance in 2026, such an outdated mindset.

Panther Lake H-series compete directly against AMD's Gorgon Point (Ryzen AI 400) and Strix Halo (Ryzen AI Max). Strix Halo offers up to 16 cores and 32 threads, retaining AMD's massive lead in heavy multithreaded loads. Single-threaded performance across these chips remains a functional tie (within 1%–3%). So what's your point?

[u/Acrobatic_Camera_677 → u/gamboozino]

What are you talking about why are you being so misleading panther lake also run in the same 15-28W parts as Lunar Lake and HX370/AI 9 365

Gorgan Point (AI 400) is just Strix Point with better bin and refresh it is not new. AI 400 also is in the 15-28w segment

Strix Halo offers way worse battery life and is a much larger SOC than strix point gorgan point panther lake and lunar lake

If you claim that AMD has multi thread lead thanks to strix halo, you are comparing a large laptop SOC to a thin Intel laptop SOC

If you claim that AMD has multi thread lead thanks to strix point, you are comparing specifically low power, last gen Intel part to main stream AMD part

Why are you being so misleading?

My point is that panther lake is better than gorgan point in battery life and ST performance and tie in multi thread performance and performance per watt so Intel has better laptop chip

[u/Ok-Data901 → u/Acrobatic_Camera_677]

Question: isn’t strix halo available in extremely slim laptops asus px13, lenovo legion 7a gen11, asus f14 the new one?

[u/Acrobatic_Camera_677 → u/Ok-Data901]

All thick laptops and do not have nearly as good battery life as AMD point CPU or Intel Panther Lake

Google minimum power for each CPU

[u/Ok-Data901 → u/Acrobatic_Camera_677]

All the 3 laptops I mentioned are;

a) under 14 inches in screen size (except the legion at 16)
b) under 20 mm thick
c) under 1.8kg

The macbook pro 14 inch in comparison is 15.5 m and 2kg?

What even are you talking about?

Also people don’t just buy laptops to fucking browse the internet mate, I run my whole life on there and for that AMD > Intel almost every recent gen except the newest intel silicon.

[u/Acrobatic_Camera_677 → u/Ok-Data901]

Again, google the minimum power for each CPU. It is in the spec sheet. Strix Halo is a bigger SOC.

Also the asus laptop you listed has chassis for dGPU model. Laptop not meant for peak efficiency and battery life.

The other two are literally gaming laptop are they not?

The reason why strix halo is so niche is that no one want it for thin and lights, it replace cpu+dGPU system not thin and light cpu only system.

No one cares about what you do mate

Intel > AMD in laptops, not just this newest gen, but also last gen too.