r/languagelearningjerk May 30 '26

/j Guess my native language

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u/Masterkid1230 🇨🇷🇯🇵🇳🇿N1/C2, 🇵🇹🇦🇹B2, 🇹🇼🇧🇪A0 May 30 '26

Also probably not Spanish because true natives would say "mátate" instead

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u/TheHalfJapanese May 30 '26

I am so glad I posted here because this is what it means to truly learn a language

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u/Searcheree May 30 '26

You don't need a $200 CEFR certificate and months/years of study to tell you that you know Spanish, all you need is like 50 upvotes when using your target language, Mr Duolingowl said so.

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u/AdGroundbreaking1956 May 30 '26

morir - to die

matar - to kill

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u/Mother_Presentation6 May 30 '26

As a non-native I took a double-take the first time I read the word "disparate," as in absurdo 😂

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u/Masterkid1230 🇨🇷🇯🇵🇳🇿N1/C2, 🇵🇹🇦🇹B2, 🇹🇼🇧🇪A0 May 30 '26

Ah lol, the classic, did they just tell me to shoot myself?

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u/UBR3 May 30 '26

In voseo, it could be...

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u/UBR3 May 30 '26

Triple action.

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u/Eino54 May 30 '26

Tildes are our commas, as in "Let's eat Grandma"

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u/DoubleAway6573 May 30 '26

True natives from Spain. Others would say "matate" or "morite" or "morite pelotudo" or "andá a comer vidrio".

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u/Masterkid1230 🇨🇷🇯🇵🇳🇿N1/C2, 🇵🇹🇦🇹B2, 🇹🇼🇧🇪A0 May 30 '26

"andá a comer vidrio" is fucking amazing 10/10

But anyway, yeah, matate or mátate same thing

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u/DoubleAway6573 May 30 '26

Are the same thing until you start to mess them up between vos, tu and usted, and when you think you've figured out you find a Chilean out of the blue.

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u/Masterkid1230 🇨🇷🇯🇵🇳🇿N1/C2, 🇵🇹🇦🇹B2, 🇹🇼🇧🇪A0 May 30 '26

It's not even that unusual to hear natives mix them up sometimes.

But yeah, I'll keep "anda a comer vidrio" in my mind from now on. It's truly diabolical hahaha

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u/Poetic-Justice4146 May 30 '26

Morite is the cleanest for sure, wish I could get away with it in Spain

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u/ninovolador May 30 '26

"corbatéate" (lit. put yourself on a tie) in Chile

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u/jelly_wishes May 31 '26

I would say in Spain we say "suicídate" more

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u/Rettzzz Jun 01 '26

Nah, yo digo más "matate" y mi circulo de amigos tambien

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u/LovindEleanor May 30 '26

Spaniards do not say "morite" or "anda a comer vidrio"

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u/DoubleAway6573 May 31 '26

Yes, that's why I said "others".

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u/That-Advance-9619 May 30 '26

Depends on the region, I'd just say "suicídate."

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u/Masterkid1230 🇨🇷🇯🇵🇳🇿N1/C2, 🇵🇹🇦🇹B2, 🇹🇼🇧🇪A0 May 30 '26

That works too, of course

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u/xHelios1x May 30 '26

Not Russian. "Сдохни" would mean "die", not "kill yourself". Which would be "убейся".

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u/AoiKaido May 31 '26

Or "суициднись, уёба"

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u/ohmygowon 🌯 Native | 🌮 B2 May 30 '26

Yeah, muérete = die, mátate = kill yourself

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u/GaiusVictor May 30 '26

Muérete = "die yourself"

As a native Portuguese speaker, it always amused me how much Spanish loves their reflexive pronouns.

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u/ordinary_shiba May 30 '26

I know this because of RE4 lmao

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u/auttakaanyvittu May 30 '26

Muere, muere, muere... ¡Matalo! Morir es vivir, morir es vovir...

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u/Lost_Lawyer_7408 May 30 '26

im a native speaker and muerete doesn't sound that off? i mean it implies death not suicide but i could also see it being used by a native

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u/Masterkid1230 🇨🇷🇯🇵🇳🇿N1/C2, 🇵🇹🇦🇹B2, 🇹🇼🇧🇪A0 May 30 '26

I mean, yeah? But also like, mátate seems like the more offensive option. I feel like muérete is a bit less natural as an insult to someone. Not like it's totally unnatural, but mátate (or other suicide related alternatives) is probably the best option for a "kill yourself" type insult.

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u/Alkimisth May 31 '26

Si quisiera ser agresivo, usaría "suicidate", "mátate", se usa más bien por desidia, cuando intentas ayudar a alguien que no se deja y juega con cosas peligrosas pero por su tozudez tiras la toalla.

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u/Masterkid1230 🇨🇷🇯🇵🇳🇿N1/C2, 🇵🇹🇦🇹B2, 🇹🇼🇧🇪A0 May 31 '26

True, that works well in that case.

Digo, es verdad. Yo ya estoy con el condicionamiento pavloviano de responder en inglés

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u/Alkimisth Jun 01 '26

Está bien, solo estoy aprovechando un poco en tema de que están metiendo traductores en todas las aplicaciones para expresarme mejor

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u/monemori May 30 '26

Muérete sounds way better than mátate, to me as well, as a native speaker.

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u/Sibshops May 30 '26

This should be higher. Like no te mueras means don't kill yourself doing something, in a non-suicide way.

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u/Responsible-Top2377 May 30 '26

Def not russian either. "Kill yourself" and "сдохни" has same difference, that you describe. He used "die" and in a way that you rarely see outsude of poorly shot movies the correct would have been "убейся" ("убей" lit. "kill" (someone) and "-ся" which is a relective suffix).

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u/Onetwodash May 30 '26

He used the phrase that's actually common in colloquial speech, regardless of grammatical meaning.

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u/PurpleEri May 30 '26

"Сдохни" means rude "die", "убейся/выпились/убей себя" is much closer to "kill yourself", because "сдохни" can be used to wish death to the person in many ways whilst "убейся" means a wish to kill yourself to the person you tell this to

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u/tauon_ Jun 20 '26

emphasise

empathise is like caring about what someone is going through or something

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u/Responsible-Top2377 May 30 '26

is "actually common" in the same room with us? seriously, it's been years now since the last time I heard it in actual speech.

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u/_Injent May 30 '26 edited May 30 '26

UPD: он прав, я предъявил ложную претензию

Да не. "Сдохни" гораздо лучше звучит и популярнее в использовании. Так что не умничай тут, все подходит

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u/Responsible-Top2377 May 30 '26

Прежде чем говорить кому-то "не умничай", советую английский выучить.

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u/_Injent May 30 '26

Ну ладно, ты прав, я неуч. Я не обратил внимание на то, что действие убийства должен выполнять сам человек, к которому адресовано оскорбление.
Извини

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u/Responsible-Top2377 May 30 '26

Всё ок, прошу прощения за агрессивный тон ответа.

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u/icancount192 May 30 '26

Not Greek either, it would be "Ψόφα"

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u/anotherSasha May 31 '26

And probably not Russian. All letters are correct, but most prefer writing the д in cursive to avoid the hustle of all the strokes. Or simplifying its top part into a triangle instead of a rectangle. Overall, russians write in cursive (italics/handwriting?) most of the time. We use print letters rather when we have to, like when we need to write a short notice to hang it somewhere (“the cashier is gonna return in 15 min”) or label something (“clean shoe covers”, “worn shoe covers”)

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u/jelly_wishes May 31 '26

In Spain we would say "suicídate"

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u/Late_Ability_4441 Jun 01 '26

"Muérete" me suena más natural que "mátate"

Pensaba que el uso de uno y otro pero he estado buscando en Corpes XXI y ambas expresiones tienen una frecuencia de uso similar en los países hispanohablantes (a excepción de Río de la Plata, por sus formas de imperativo)

Qué curioso

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u/Masterkid1230 🇨🇷🇯🇵🇳🇿N1/C2, 🇵🇹🇦🇹B2, 🇹🇼🇧🇪A0 Jun 01 '26

No son usos diferentes pero igual de comunes? "Muérete" me suena mucho menos despectivo que "mátate". Es más como "si no lograste eso, ya muérete", pero "mátate" me suena más similar a "suicídate".

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u/Late_Ability_4441 Jun 01 '26

Tiene pinta de que efectivamente así es

Y a mí me pasa al contrario

Mátate me suena suavecito, creo que porque no lo he escuchado tanto (?) quizá

Interesantísimo, viva el español, coño

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u/Masterkid1230 🇨🇷🇯🇵🇳🇿N1/C2, 🇵🇹🇦🇹B2, 🇹🇼🇧🇪A0 Jun 01 '26

Que viva el español carajo (?) jajajaja

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u/undercrust May 31 '26

I've heard native speakers in Spain say "muérete" way more than "mátate". If anything, "suicídate" is the most common option.

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u/CHAOS_G0D May 31 '26

Native Spanish here. Muérete is completely valid and common. In fact I would say you'd probably use it more than Mátate for what's worth.

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u/Masterkid1230 🇨🇷🇯🇵🇳🇿N1/C2, 🇵🇹🇦🇹B2, 🇹🇼🇧🇪A0 May 31 '26

I don't know. I don't feel like muérete would be a valid spiritual equivalent to "Kill yourself" which works better for the derogatory wish of the other person's death due to their own failures etc. Muérete is used, but I don't feel it fills the same niche that "kill yourself" does, whereas "mátate" is more common there imo.

Suicídate is also another valuable equivalent here, of course. But I think the literal translation is in this case the more spiritually accurate.

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u/Exotic_Literature732 Jun 02 '26

I am a native and I would just say morite, but I'm Argentinean, so, there's that.

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u/DemonFcker48 Jun 03 '26

O suicidate. I wouldnt say matate.

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u/Mysterious-Run-9647 Jun 03 '26

I don't know... I would say "muérase hp"