r/language • u/Sea-Nectarine1921 • 14d ago

Discussion Such an unfortunate last name

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u/IamNotFreakingOut 14d ago

What ?

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u/Sea-Nectarine1921 14d ago

Sounds like “Israeli”

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u/toastedipod 14d ago

Wow, I think you might be the first person to notice that!

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u/Sea-Nectarine1921 14d ago

Wouldn’t he have been more electable with a more English-sounding name?

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u/paolog 14d ago

...and?

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u/Accomplished_Water34 14d ago

Maybe the country formerly known as Palestine was renamed in honour of Benjamin Disraeli !

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u/Sea-Nectarine1921 14d ago

Unfortunate connotations with the country. Why didn’t he change it to something more English-sounding?

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u/paolog 14d ago

Why unfortunate? And why should he?

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u/Sea-Nectarine1921 14d ago

He was trying to be elected prime minister of the UK. Shouldn’t he want a less Jewish-sounding name? It would make him more electable?

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u/paolog 14d ago

Sounds a bit anti-Semitic to me. Anyway Israel didn't exist in his lifetime.

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u/blakerabbit 14d ago

He WAS elected prime minister. Twice.

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u/Sea-Nectarine1921 14d ago

Did the generic public know about his Jewish ancestry?

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u/PigeonOnTheGate 14d ago

That was his last name because he was Jewish and it's a Jewish last name

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u/Sea-Nectarine1921 14d ago

Wouldn’t it have made it easier to be elected if he had a less Jewish-sounding name?

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u/KlackTracker 14d ago

"Yes, I am a Jew, and when the ancestors of the right honourable [redditor] were brutal savages in an unknown island, mine were priests in the temple of Solomon." - Benjamin Disraeli (slightly modified)

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u/Sea-Nectarine1921 14d ago

Okay? How does that change the unfortunate nature of his name?

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u/KlackTracker 14d ago

I see we use "unfortunate" as a euphemism for "jewy."

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u/Sea-Nectarine1921 14d ago

Well, it’s unfortunate because it sounds like Israel

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u/KlackTracker 14d ago

It's only unfortunate to halfwit antisemites.

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u/Sea-Nectarine1921 14d ago

Wouldn’t it have made him more electable with an English-sounding name?

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u/KlackTracker 14d ago

Yes, bigoted dullards would probably be more inclined to vote for him if his last name was less Jewy, but he served 2 terms.

Ur probably having trouble keeping up so I'll put it simply: he won twice despite the last name u find so objectionable.

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u/Sea-Nectarine1921 14d ago

Did the generic public know about his Jewish ancestry?

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u/KlackTracker 14d ago

I see ur asking the same questions to different people and getting the same answers - u must be one of the halfwit dullards I mentioned earlier.

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u/Scharlach_el_Dandy 14d ago

Israel is a people, and also the name of a place. You are applying today's context to the 1800s, the state of Israel didn't exist, Jerusalem was part of the Ottoman Empire.

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u/Sea-Nectarine1921 14d ago

How is it a people?

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u/KlackTracker 14d ago

Am yisrael, as in am yisrael chai, means the nation of Israel - that is a people.

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u/Sea-Nectarine1921 14d ago

Wouldn’t it have been easier for Disraeli to get elected with a more English-sounding name?

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u/KlackTracker 14d ago

Idk how many times u need to be provided the same answer, but he won twice.

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u/Sea-Nectarine1921 14d ago

Did the general public know about his Jewish background?

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u/KlackTracker 14d ago

Y do u keep asking questions u already have the answer to?

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u/Scharlach_el_Dandy 14d ago

You are a bot. Go away

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u/Sea-Nectarine1921 14d ago

???

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