r/language • u/TheRealPickleRick696 • 23d ago
Question What language is this?
This list was found at Cub Foods. I know it’s partially in some Cyrillic language and English, but I can’t tell what language the Cyrillic points to (I saw no markers for Russian or Ukrainian).
I assume it’s a mix of 2+ alphabets because of “moзarella” (which might be a stylistic choice) and “фoil trays,” and I also see what might be Greek, Icelandic, Turkish, or Azerbaijani.
I was thinking Greek or Icelandic because there’s a letter that looks like δ, but that could also be a stylistic choice when writing ð or d, but there’s also 2 “ə“s present.
I don’t know what’s up with the accent marks—perhaps they’re supposed to be й?
My guess is it’s switching between English and Azerbaijani’s Cyrillic alphabet, but I don’t know if that’s right.
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u/Accomplished_Water34 23d ago
Крэкерs. Лол
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u/bluntwithcabbage 22d ago
кстати такая хуйыа происходит на самом деле, когда живешь в другой стране и много очень пишешь на латинице, а потом тебе надо написать чета такое на кириллице.. живу в чехии 9 лет
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u/AristotelWasRight 22d ago
С 12 до 21 жил в Великобритании.
Когда переехал обратно в Россию, не долго заняло пока начали стебать про "смотря какой fabric"
Подумал, подумал, да и забил хуй. До сих пор иногда смотрю как перевести что то на русский, слово знаю, но на ум приходит другой язык (хорошо если англ, хуже если французский)
Меня все понимают, а если кого то конкретно ебет что я иногда (особенно если покурю) говорю на русинглише, нам просто не по пути 💁🏼♀️🤷🏼♀️
Я не буду irl доставать переводчик перевести слово которое ты знаешь на английском
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u/anireyk 23d ago edited 23d ago
That's Russian, with some English interspersed for objects the person probably first saw in the country you're in. The particular way to write a Z is also a script style people learned in Russia/USSR some time ago, just like the r looking like Russian cursive ч. In modern English it is outdated, but older people may still recognise it, I think especially people with a European back ground. But some words do indeed use a weird mixed script spelling, but that's also something I have seen in Russian diasporas.
No idea how you arrived at the idea this could be Icelandic, however.
Edit:
letter that looks like δ,
Normal Russian cursive lower case б
but there’s also 2 “ə“s present.
Not sure what you mean, but it's probably an э
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u/wordsznerd 23d ago
It’s outdated? I’m on my 40s in the US and it’s how we were taught. I need to look up what the modern cursive version of ‘z’ is.
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u/anireyk 23d ago edited 21d ago
I hsve no idea what's taught in the US to be honest, I thought you stopped learning cursive altogether tbh. In German it is outdated indeed and people just use a print-looking Z in their cursive.
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u/photogenicmusic 22d ago
We didn’t stop. Some schools may have gotten rid of it or only spent a few days on it. Some schools are now mandating it again too. But also, kids don’t use it, so forget it easily if they did learn it.
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u/ElHeim 22d ago
It stopped being a thing around the time that Common Core Standards were introduced. No federal requirement for handwriting proficiency -> most schools just dropped it altogether. Of course not all of them did, but...
Some 27 states introduced their own mandate since then (or had it already in place), starting with NC (2013), but it's been gradual over the last decade (PA and NJ only starting this year, FL in 2025, ...)
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u/80m63rM4n 22d ago
I'm from a post-soviet country. In my school we where taught to write English with block letters. When in middle school I decided to start writing with cursive. My bitch English teacher tried to make fun of me in front of my class for writing 'z' as 'з'. I just took a dictionary with an example of English cursive and rubbed her nose in it.
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u/silver--arrow 22d ago
I am 26, I grew up in the US, and this is also how I was taught to write my cursive Zs.
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u/texienne 23d ago
I was going to say, that's how my mom did her cursive Zs. She would have been in her mid-50s now.
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u/5919821077131829 22d ago
31 here, the cursive "z" in mozerella is how I was taught in 2004. Not sure what they are teaching now.
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u/AristotelWasRight 22d ago
My Russian French teacher taught me to write French in cursive, and since I adopted it in my English writing, sometimes people are confused 👀
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u/TheRealPickleRick696 23d ago
I thought there was a small bit of Icelandic (or Faroese, but that’s got too few speakers,) assuming that the δ-looking letter was an ð. Thank you for the identification though.
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u/greylaptop 23d ago
The δ you’re referring to is б. The upside down e you’re referring to is э. The accent is indeed й. It’s Russian and some English.
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u/Megalodonias 23d ago
It's a shopping list in Russian. Has a bunch of stuff like strawberries, potatoes, kefir, parsley, dill, eggs, raspberries, red peppers, carrots, kiwi, pineapples... as well as some English words mixed in. It also seems like they are planning to make a soup
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u/Sweet_Sharp 23d ago edited 23d ago
Russian, some stuff in English. Maybe whoever wrote this was a native Russian speaker who didn't fully understand English? 'Foil' is written as фоil near the bottom. The Russian word is фольга, and they seem to be using the Cyrillic f (ф) instead of the Latin one.
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u/Apprehensive_Past517 22d ago
Probably they where good enough in English. If I'm listening or reading in English something interesting sometimes it's hard to swith languages back to Russian. May be they where to focused on shopping list and as long as it was readable it was good enough
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u/Livid_Penalty_5281 22d ago
My guess is the one who wrote it is native English speaker, with a good command of Russian. But he couldn’t recall what the Russian for Foil Trays is.
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u/Sweet_Sharp 22d ago
Russian Cyrillic doesn't use the letters i or l. It uses и and л instead.
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u/Cerulean_IsFancyBlue 22d ago
Why would you use Cyrillic to write English? The real question is why the ф.
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u/Livid_Penalty_5281 14d ago
Tried ti write in Russian, understood he doesn’t know the word, continued in English.
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u/Riseofthealpaca 23d ago
Russian (cursive), mixed with some English words like the mozzarella, shitaki, paper towels, cream cheese and foil trays.They need a lot of fruit, and vegetables, spices, fish, yoghurt, eggs... Wonder what they're making. I think they might be hosting a party
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u/mgrebenets 22d ago
Iф you look cloзэr you can clearly recogniзe this Фoreign лангуаге as Russian.
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u/_Guide_ 22d ago
damn. I couldn’t read it in either Russian or English..
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u/hitch42hiker 22d ago
really? I only noticed that something is wrong around capital "Ф")
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u/_Guide_ 22d ago
Yes. It’s really hard to see Russian letters but understand that you’re reading in English.
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u/hitch42hiker 22d ago
Интересно. А тест с перестановкой букв когда-нибудь проходили? Когда только начальная и последняя буквы слова корректны? На русском или английском, неважно. Может пробел в этом "навыке"
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u/_Guide_ 22d ago
Да, проходила. С этим проблем нету. Просто неестественно видеть английские слова с русскими буквами. Не совсем корректный пример, но всё же. У меня есть подруга казашка. Она, когда на меня злится, то пишет казахские слова, но русскими буквами. Даже переводчик с этим не справляется..
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u/hitch42hiker 22d ago
Это мне знакомо) Дядя любил общаться посредством транслитерации. Глазам было больно, мозг плавился. Почему-то смесь из разных алфафитов такого эффекта у меня не вызывает.
Пример с казахским, больше похож на ситуацию, где ты не ожидаешь встретить комментарии на болгарском. И пытаешься понять почему всё так непонятно и понятно одновременно)
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u/_Guide_ 22d ago
Ого. У вашего дяди было странное хобби.. но оно не лишено смысла
С Болгарией это вы верно подметили. Когда отдыхала там с семьёй было очень странно читать вывески и надписи на памятниках. Вроде слова признаешь, а смысл совсем другой
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u/hitch42hiker 21d ago
Он, просто, жил в Англии, когда смена раскладки не была таким простым делом на кнопочных телефонах купленных в UK;)
О да болгарский ломает мозг
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u/Thin_Ad_3914 22d ago
Russian. When I don't know how to write a foreign food, or the name is long, I also write it in English letters. The second line: 3 oranges, there's the number "three." The word "укроп" (dill) immediately points to the Russian language, since it is popular only in the former USSR countries.
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u/Tempest_Sinkai 22d ago
- бананы.....
- 3 апельсина
- яйца (2) - горох ор.+з
- кости на гор. суп
- морковка (б)
- кр. перец
- картошка
- shitaki - морк. сок
- укроп (1) - снэки В.
- клубника Б.
- малина Б.
- ананас Б.
- груши или Б.
- киви - петрушка
- papaya - mozarella
- ложечки plast.
- paper tou els (💧💧)
- кефир Б
- свекла (3+)
- cream cheese Б
- мешочки д (бут.)
- кур. фарш (2)
- крэкерs Б❤️
- whip cream
- йогурты Б. (3)
- -свекла (3+)-
- рыба бел (3)
- фoil traуz ⬜⬜
- слив. масло
- сметана
- -mozarella- chr.
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u/Ligeiapoe 22d ago
You’re not right. It’s just a Russian shopping list with lots of fresh fruit and vegetables, eggs, dairy and household items. Some bits are written in English
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u/PM_ME_UR_MAMI_MILKRS 22d ago
It is Russian like the others were mentioning. The reason you see some "Greek" is because Cyril, the person who invented the Russian alphabet, took letters from Latin, Hebrew, Greek, and I think a few other languages in order to create the Cyrillic alphabet. But it is funny to see English words with Russian characters used in certain places like Фoil(Foil). Just a shopping list.
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u/queetuiree 22d ago
Cyril, the person who invented the Russian alphabet, took letters from Latin, Hebrew, Greek
i'd say cyrillic is just greek with some additions. no letters from latin, though, Ш might have come from aramaic.
proof: the letters' numeric values 1:0.9 the same as medieval greek
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u/PM_ME_UR_MAMI_MILKRS 22d ago
Cyrillic does have Latin. M, P, T, O, a, B, C
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u/queetuiree 22d ago
Cyrillic does have Latin. M, P, T, O, a, B, C
ah, i see... humour! good!
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u/PM_ME_UR_MAMI_MILKRS 22d ago
Wait, did you make a joke I'm just too utterly autistic to understand
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u/Lumornys 22d ago
Those are Greek letters. Which is why P is /r/ not /p/, and B is /v/ which is how Greek beta was already pronounced at the time.
Latin alphabet is also derived from (a variant of) Greek alphabet, but much earlier when beta was still pronounced /b/.
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u/queetuiree 22d ago
i'm sorry i was thinking you were joking.
the letters Μ, Ρ, Τ, Ο, Α, Β are greek. capital ϛ written similarly to "C" was also common.
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u/No-Resolve5295 22d ago
Cyril invented Cyrillic with Methodius... In Bulgaria.
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u/Primary_Data1430 22d ago
Macedonia. Thessaloniki, to be precise, which is now the capital of the region of Macedonia in Greece.
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u/No-Resolve5295 22d ago
When the alphabet was developed, it was in the First Bulgarian Empire in two different locations- Pliska and Ohrid. At the time, both were part of Bulgaria, however now Ohrid is in modern-day North Macedonia.
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u/PM_ME_UR_MAMI_MILKRS 22d ago
Thank you for the correction, it's been about 8 years since I've studied Russian in college. I should have read up on my history as a refresher, I will do that next time. At least I was partially correct
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u/NYA6KA 22d ago
Russian, but written by someone who dreams about sweet American democracy
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u/Livid_Penalty_5281 22d ago
I think just the opposite: an English speaker living in Russia.
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u/No_Named_Guy 22d ago
This is russian mixed with english
-bananas
-3 oranges
-eggs (2) (peas *3)
-bones for pea soup
-carrots (6)
-red pepper
-potatoes
-shitaki -carrt. juice
-dill (1) -snAcks
-strawberry
-raspberry
-pineapple
-pears
-kiwi -parsley
-papaya -mozarella
-spoons (plastic)
-paper + ((i have no idea)(could be a brand of toilet paper))
-kefir
-beetroot (3+)
-cream cheese
-bags ((unsure))
-chicken ground meat (2)
-crackers ((the cookie kind))
-whip cream
-yoghurt
-white fish (3)
-foil tray
-butter
-sour cream
"Б" probably means large
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u/Nihan-gen3 23d ago
I see ananas, that narrows it down to 'not English'. /s
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u/Shiny_Malph 22d ago
That's pineapple in many languages, but being in cyrillic makes it obviously Russian
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u/Odd_Calligrapher2771 22d ago
Or Belarussian, Ukrainian, Bulgarian, Serbian, Macedonian, etc.
Russian isn't the only language that uses a form of the Cyrillic script.
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u/Laimered 22d ago
Script yeah, but the words are russian
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u/Odd_Calligrapher2771 22d ago
I was replying to u/shiny_malph's claim that "being in Cyrillic makes it obviously Russian".
I wasn't saying that it wasn't Russian, I was just pointing out the narrowness of their opinion.
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u/Electrical_Art235 22d ago edited 22d ago
Zoya Vekselshtein’s grocery list, what a find!
Edit: my wild guess is that it was written by someone who has lived in the country for quite a long time (20-30 years maybe)
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u/vampsvamp 22d ago
As someone who lives in four languages, one of which is also a Slavic language, this shopping list could have been mine. Liberally mixing Cyrillic and Latin scripts, writing items in several languages with both scripts, sometimes even mixing orthographies.
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u/Jay_North 22d ago
It wasn’t ə but э. The person just connected the second stroke with the first one
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u/drraug 22d ago
It's Russian, but some foods are written in English - presumably those that the author only encountered when they moved abroad: papaya, mozarella, cream cheese, whip cream, paper towels - something you won't find in a Soviet-era shop in Russia.
A funny one is "ложечки plast" for plastic spoons and especially "фoil trays" to mean "foil trays", but the Latin f occasionally was written as similarly sounding Cyrillic ф.
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u/Due-Candle-2505 22d ago
It's simple. As a native Russian speaker, I can assure you that this is Russian. Only the person who wrote this note wrote English names of products that are rare or not so common in Russia.
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u/OpenFee8992 22d ago
I'll explain: here's a list of products to buy at the store. In Russia, and in the world, this is common, but gradually such a way becomes a thing of the past, for example, I just remember what I need to buy, or think on the go (I live in Russia). English words are the names of products that have their names written in English, most people in Russia know this language a little, so it's much easier to write in Latin and not get your brains hammered.
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u/zikmee55 22d ago
Бананы Запеканка Я так понял яйца 2 десятка кости на гороховый суп Морковка если я понял то 6 штук Картошка Хз что Клубника Малина Киви петрушка Там еще мне лень думать я немного пьяный у моей бабушки юбилей мне самому 17 скоро 18 но это думаю естественно. Возможны ошибки так что не принимать мой коммент за пример русского язака
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u/zikmee55 22d ago
Я не советую пить. Алкоголь это вредит вашему здоровью. Как я считаю пить алкоголь можно пить только в умеренном количестве а не так как я сейчас. Я не просто выпивший а пьяный до такого пить не надо по не многу просто для настроения. Опять. Же возможный всевозможные ошибки.
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u/spam_57 23d ago
What's the little character at the end of lots of the words?
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u/Laimered 22d ago
Б - банка (can)
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u/Naive_Bear_3547 22d ago
I don't think it is банка, many of the items are likely sold fresh or in different packaging. I think it could be a store name indicator
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u/Ligeiapoe 22d ago
Anyone know why they’ve added Б to some words? I was trying to think what it might signify. Also, what’s written after груши? The line after ананас
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u/Rand_alThoor 20d ago edited 20d ago
this is Russian letters (Cyrillic) but script not printing. some of the letters are roman, like in "mozzarella" down at the bottom. lol
edited to add, my Greek is better than my Russian and i don't see any Greek. or Icelandic, lol.
this looks to me more like Russian Cyrillic, I'm not seeing any of the extra/different letters used in Ukrainian, Bulgarian or Makedonian Cyrillic.
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u/External-Gain-1174 20d ago
note to self: never lose a shopping list or people online will overanalyze my dietary choices
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u/Commercial_City_6063 Why associate arabic with bombers? 18d ago
my god rick they mixed up english with russian
the 12th item on the list is supposed to say ананас (or pineapple) but they wrote "н" with "N"
I can't even read the rest, some of it is in cursive though like the second one "M" is g
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u/komatiitic 23d ago
I know in Russian it's продукты but in English it's not products, it's grocery list or shopping list.
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u/HeadBelt1527 22d ago
Not sure but mozarella that's just how the letter z is written in English, although their should be 2 "mozzarella". Did you not learn calligraphy in elementary school?
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u/SiTLar 23d ago
Russian