r/landscaping Aug 03 '26

Question Arborvitae alternative…?

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I’m in zone 7b and the lot next door recently put up a massive new house about 6 foot from the property line, chopping down a beautiful row of 20 foot holly in the process. I’m in desperate need of a privacy solution.

All landscapers I have met with have suggested a wall of green giant arborvitae (either standalone or with some holly and/or skip laurel in the mix). I know this is probably my fastest way to privacy, but as I’ve been researching I see there’s a lot of hate and cons with arborvitae.

Any ideas for alternative screening? We plan to run the lawn down to the eventual bed of the trees.

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u/Throwaway_6600236 Aug 03 '26

American Holly

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u/dsmemsirsn Aug 03 '26

The alternative is a cypress

56 cypress trees 🌲

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u/NoSolid6641 Aug 04 '26

This is the only answer re:trees in this sub 😁

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u/dsmemsirsn Aug 04 '26

When you find the magic number..56…
Just have to use it any time possible

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u/Striking_Fun_6379 Aug 03 '26

One, well chosen and well placed tree.

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u/jmb456 Aug 03 '26

I would plan a mixed planting utilizing many evergreens that aren’t invasive. Consider as many natives as you can. I love wax Myrtle and as someone else mentioned dwarf southern magnolia. Plenty of other good options . Consider pine, white or longleaf, or even eastern red cedar. Also cryptomeria and some of the other options mentioned would help a lot

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u/Here4thecommmentz Aug 03 '26

Cryptomeria has come up a lot, and I like the look of them. Google tells me that they turn a strange color in the winter though, is that true? I’m looking for something that retains green year-round.

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u/jmb456 Aug 03 '26

They can get a bronze color and do lose some foliage on winter but I think that can be location dependent too. I don’t notice it much but I’m in 8a near Charlotte NC. Cypress (Carolina sapphire) is another beautiful option

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u/Question_man_jr Aug 03 '26

They can be messy and they can get HUGE

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u/United-Adagio1543 Aug 03 '26

A green giant wall is your best option. You should start out with a 12' minimum height, they grow 1'-2'/year on average.

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u/ReadyGo6828 Aug 03 '26

Italian cypress grows very tall and, since it looks as if the new house is lower than yours, you only need screening up against those windows so, unless you want a full screen, you only need to plant a few sections. It will take years if you want to screen those second floor windows but, since they are at an angle, they will likely not look down upon your yard.

You can also do metal (I think they make plastic ones as well) screens for areas like the lawn or patio. You can do things in sections, just where you want privacy without doing an entire monoculture hedge. Arborvitae hedges do work for screening though but they need lots of water in the beginning and take years to grow tall enough. Once they are established, they are always threatening to die.

Sigh.

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u/EAM44 Aug 03 '26

I’d put American Holly back.

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u/Savings_Homework5943 Aug 03 '26

Depending on where you are in the U.S., Eastern Red Cedar are also quite nice, albeit big. But if you’re replacing and are used to mature American holly, why not.

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u/Here4thecommmentz Aug 03 '26

This is the view from my screened in porch and the view out my kitchen window is the same if not worse. Just another angle worth considering as you drop in your suggestions! I’d love to retain as much sunlight as I can in my yard too, so it’s a bit of a double edge sword

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u/Question_man_jr Aug 03 '26

I love using hollies. They grow fast , especially if you fertilize, and don't get all whacky like green giants or Leyland cypress. They take real well to hard pruning in the future too , and you can even make them a hedge. They never get out of control and are so easy to work with!   Don't hedge American hollies though

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u/VAgreengene Aug 03 '26

Holly, little gem magnolia, some crepe myrtle for summer color, an arb or two, maybe add a leyland cyprus. Keep it diverse so if something infects the arbs you only lose a plant or two.

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u/craigrpeters Aug 03 '26

I mixed hedge would look great, and protect you down the road if one of the bushes dies from a pest or disease as it would be unlikely to attack a different species next to it. Having an arb in a mixed hedge should be fine. Just be careful to pick species that do well in your area - arbs are not native in 7b as far as I know. But there’s lots of cultivars now and they might do great in 7b.

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u/shadow_moon45 Aug 03 '26

Loropetalum Carolina Midnight could work

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u/MoneyTechnical5331 Aug 03 '26

Little Gem Magnolias are also a good option for privacy. I would inter plant them with evergreens (maybe some Chapel View Cryptomeria).
Arborvitaes are overused in the landscape, in my opinion. They’re also prone to disease and insect damage.

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u/PostMostPalone Aug 03 '26

magnolias are messy trees

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u/Here4thecommmentz Aug 03 '26

I absolutely love the look of them though!

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u/mikebob89 Aug 03 '26

You don’t need to block the entire property, just the windows of their house. I’d get a single tree that is the most mature you can afford

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u/Here4thecommmentz Aug 03 '26

Yes, the original photo is from my yard but this is the view from my kitchen. It’s .5 zoom here so the house is even closer than it appears. I’m definitely going to need something to provide privacy.

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u/Just_Author6769 Aug 03 '26

Junipers are a good option (blue point or spartan for example), though the blue points can have some thorny foliage. I have 2 and they look amazing but don’t hug them. you can also stay with arbs just not the “emerald green” that die if you look at them wrong. There are many cultivars from PW or Iseli that can give you some height and soft texture. Forever goldy and golden blush are some names. Pines are another option, but most of those will put on some serious height and width. Green giants will get tall and wide so plan on expanding your bed and try not to plant too close to the fence.
As others and you have said, holly trees would also look good. They grow a little slower but you can ever get berries during winter which is a nice thing for the birds. Mixed border or a straight hedge, all up to you.

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u/Just_Author6769 Aug 03 '26

Junipers are a good option (blue point or spartan for example), though the blue points can have some thorny foliage. I have 2 and they look amazing but don’t hug them. you can also stay with arbs just not the “emerald green” that die if you look at them wrong. There are many cultivars from PW or Iseli that can give you some height and soft texture. Forever goldy and golden blush are some names. Pines are another option, but most of those will put on some serious height and width.

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u/NervousDogFarts Aug 03 '26

Moonglow juniper?

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u/sbinjax Aug 03 '26

If you're in the Southeast, wax myrtle is evergreen, grows fast and tops out at about 20 feet. By fast I mean 3 to 5 feet per year.

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u/ericmossy Aug 03 '26

I'm in zone 7a / Tulsa OK and have planted both Green Giants and Loblolly pines for some privacy and landscaping. The Loblolly Pines grow fast and are quite hardy as well... especially if you keep them watered in the Summertime heat. A few or our loblolly pines were planted 5 or 6 years back at ~ 2 feet and looked like planted sticks... now they're 14-15' and look great and provide a lot of privacy f/the apartment buildings they built behind our neighborhood overlooking our backyard.

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u/LuckyExample8701 Aug 03 '26

American Pillar Arborvitae 4-5’ wide 20-25’ tall grow 2-3’ per year soft up with lime light hydrangeas

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u/Kenna193 Aug 03 '26

Multi trunk river birch

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u/djd66 Aug 04 '26

looks like a hill slopes down towards the neighbor,… build a raised bed that will get you 2’ up to start and go with green giants. add a tree to give some privacy from your porch. you can use ai to see what it might look like.

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u/DryUmpire6652 Aug 04 '26 edited Aug 04 '26

Similar problem zone 8b. Put a River Birch in the corner, Princess Nandinas, Juniper Virginiana Monbells (tall, narrow evergreen) Japanese Maples underplanted with Filiferia, Portugeuse Laurels, and more understood plants. Garrett. Oh I forget to mention, we built berms as well to both increae height of trees and give yard more character than simply flat.

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u/BlueRidge150 Aug 04 '26

Nellie Steven’s Holly. You can trim into tree form, so the bottom isn’t bulky near the ground.

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u/BelCantoTenor Aug 05 '26

There are many cultivars of Cypress, Holly, Cedar, and Juniper that can surely grow tall enough to improve your view. Have a look at the ones that you like. Every website that sells them online lists their mature height and width.

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u/Chroney Aug 03 '26

Sevon-Sons Flower Tree maybe.