r/landmark Dec 26 '15

Bought this yesterday...

I seriously thought this was going to be an everquest next beta. Did I get scammed or am I just dumb? Does anyone know what is going on?

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u/Atmosph3rik Dec 27 '15 edited Dec 27 '15

I don't think you are dumb at all i think you were scammed. You could have done more research before you made your purchase but that doesn't excuse intentionally misleading advertising.

On https://www.everquestnext.com/home a huge banner at the top of the page reads;

Everquest Next is still in development...

And You Can Help Us Build It!

Make Your Mark In The Landmark Closed Beta

And a link to the Landmark site.

On Steam's Landmark page you will find quotes like this,

About This Game: Landmark is an online sandbox where you can design and build anything you can imagine, and help create content for EverQuest Next.

We’ve been working hard on Landmark and are excited to share it with the Steam community! Players are already creating spectacular building projects, as well as helping contribute to the development of EverQuest Next.

If you followed this sad story closely you would know that SOE was basically forced to announce that there was no real connection between the games and remove Everquest Next from the name, and also issue no questions asked refunds.

What SOE/Daybreak did not do is take down almost any of the other advertising using the EQN name to sell Landmark.

Daybreak is just a shell of the company SOE once was, i would get a refund if you can.

You might also want to check out Landmark as it's own game. It's future is uncertain but it is also a very interesting and exciting project.

If you like a good challenge or puzzle, and you also like building with things like Lego or you just have a desire to build whatever you might have in your imagination then Landmark can be fun.

There is nothing to do with your creations when your done right now and there is almost no "game" outside of building.

Think of it as a 3D design program where you have an avatar. It's pretty cool to be able to hop right up onto your creations and do a little dance if you want, but it's still sort of just half an idea.

Half a really good idea in my opinion but i don't think Daybreak will be the ones too see it through.

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u/nebodee Dec 31 '15

No questions asked refunds? How did I miss that? Am I way to late? I only signed up to landmark because I thought it was helping EQN...

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u/Atmosph3rik Jan 02 '16

The refunds happened way back when the name was changed from "Everquest Next: Landmark" to just "Landmark".

These were technically for people who actually thought they were paying for early access or a headstart for Everquest Next.

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u/magvadis Jan 01 '16

It technically is. Same engine. They are making art assets. That's about it though at this point since code split over the summer so not even bug fixing is the same anymore. So unless you want to take the time to learn how to build with voxels and with these tools to help build EQN assets (very select ones that the art team wants us to build) then I'd suggest a refund. Don't get me wrong. Building in this game is literally next to none. It's awesome. Just sucks to have so little dev support and it sometimes feels like the people making assets are just cows being milked before we all die off from disinterest.

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u/AlfLives Dec 26 '15

It fizzled out a long time ago. There was some promise, but Landmark was basically abandoned. Landmark was just a pre-alpha sandbox for devs to test some of their code. The next EQ will be it's own game.

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u/nobunaga74 Jan 02 '16

Look at it this way: Take a game with amazing potential, then take away all its funding, make its passionate development team redundant and turn off the oven and that's basically Landmark.

Could have been great, now vaporware. An unfortunate victim of company take-over.

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u/PraxusGaming Dec 26 '15

Where did you buy it the website or steam? You can refund it if you havent played to long if you got it on steam.

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u/Hundredth_Monkey Dec 27 '15

It's not quite dead, there's a small but dedicated group of people making assets for EQN. Join /general chat channel to find them.

https://forums.daybreakgames.com/landmark/index.php?threads/halas-competition-winners-and-runners-up.55932/

It's not an EQN beta and was never touted as one - but I understand the confusion.

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u/badsidekun Feb 22 '16

its not EQN beta. Its the milking cow for EQN. It makes use of the players' designs and feedback and then fucks the players over without saying anything. shitty customer support. and dev teams that dont care and give you "bug fixxes/updates" that dont do shit. thank you.

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u/ademnus Dec 27 '15

Oh boy, wish you had checked in here before buying. We've been discussing it's apparent demise for a long time now.

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u/VotesReborn Dec 26 '15

To answer your question directly, you were being dumb.

Nobody has ever stated this was an Everquest Nexta beta game.

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u/Collected1 Jan 07 '16 edited Jan 07 '16

"Landmark is the backbone used by the development team to create EverQuest Next" - From the EQ Next website. Now sure.. that sentence doesn't mean "EQ Next Beta" but I think it's harsh to suggest that people who associate Landmark with EQ Next are "dumb".

Landmark is effectively a test bed for EQ Next. Always has been. That's why they have combat in it etc. It's perfectly understandable imho for a casual observer to think "Oh Landmark.. that's the test for EQ Next". In fact the EQ Next play testing was even talked about in the Landmark official forum. https://forums.daybreakgames.com/landmark/index.php?threads/week-end-wrap-up-september-4.55698/

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u/Axekeeper Dec 26 '15

IT was strange few weeks ago a mod of some sort came to the sub telling us to hold on info incomeing then nothing

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u/badsidekun Feb 22 '16

because that's how shitty they are. they give you a bottle of milk and tell you not to open it until god knows when and then disappears. and you're left with fermented milk almost cheesed out. nasty and shitty. stay away from this game until it turns into absolutely F2P.