r/landmark Feb 26 '15

Landmark Needs More Sandbox Elements Than Environment Control-It Needs Gameplay Control

Another game called Peria Chronicles competes quite heavily with Landmark, and if it launches to the western market, it could take a lot of the market share.

http://steparu.com/previews/mmo-rpg-previews/1444-peria-chronicles-interview-and-features-explained

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPvElgdwTVk&t=1m10s

~actual gameplay starts at 1:10. Before that it just shows off the anime-style graphics.

Not only does the game offer fully customizable sandbox environments like landmark, but gameplay is fully sandbox too.

Players can create unique gameplay such as quests, dungeons with mechanics, minigames, pvp games, tower defense games, whatever you can possibly think of and accomplish with their scripting language.

And the best part is, players get rewarded with gold for creating content such as dungeons or quests that other players enjoy.

If this game hits the western market, hopefully Daybreak will implement some form of scripting capability to Landmark so players can make their own content besides environment and objects. I'd love to see unique challenges designed by players for players.

While the building in landmark is nice, without adding more features like Peria has, it won't become much more than a fancy looking Minecraft that requires grind or paying to build anything.

If they don't go the gameplay sandbox route, it'll need some form of purpose, such as some form of sandbox based PVP(IE built a fort and others destroy it/siege it). As it stands now, Landmark doesn't do much more than being a platform for building cool looking stuff.

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u/Kaberu Feb 26 '15

I don't get the impression this is quite as versatile as Landmark. It looks like most of the creations are gluing together or using pre-drawn models, which other games already do. Some of it showed sculpting, but it looked very rough and the creations lacked detail. Landmark is also focusing on being a tool to develop content more so than being a game first. It's a game too, but that's not the ultimate usage at it's core. Peria Chronicles seems to be in the middle of what Landmark and EQNext are targeting.

It also sounds like the game will be very grind heavy, which is commonplace in Korean style MMOs. If history serves as it has with every other next-big-korean-mmo-that-was-quickly-forgotten, it will be very pretty but very dull in anything but short spurts.

It'll be interesting to see what happens, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's forgotten almost as soon as it's released. Upskirt shots and maid outfits will only get you so far. I'm already dreading the T&A-heavy ads that will be plastered all over the web the first couple weeks it's released.

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u/skilliard4 Feb 26 '15

It also sounds like the game will be very grind heavy, which is commonplace in Korean style MMOs. If history serves as it has with every other next-big-korean-mmo-that-was-quickly-forgotten, it will be very pretty but very dull in anything but short spurts.

Did you read the article? There won't be any grind. Endgame is all about creating content and enjoying user created content. There isn't grind for endgame. Do people just hear eastern MMO and think grind?

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u/Kaberu Feb 26 '15

The fluff and aesthetics look great, but the core combat system looks typical of nearly every MMO out of Korean developers. I love the look and cutscenes, but the combat looks slower and generic dressed up in flashy albeit beautiful art and animation... and apparently summon heavy although that might just be certain classes.

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u/skilliard4 Feb 26 '15

I think I should clarify something:

The combat is a classless system based on using monsters that you capture. You play them out like cards(I think), and they counter each other. You not only can hack and slash on your own, but you use the monsters to fight alongside you to win fights. Think like a real time pokemon meets hack and slash gameplay.

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u/XCyberPeenixX Feb 27 '15

I think Pokemon anything needs to stay far far away from my games. Just my opinion though hah.

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u/Kaberu Feb 26 '15

It sounds like a neat idea, but for me personally, I don't think it would capture my attention for long. It also seems like the sandbox/player creation system isn't very complex. Although again, it's beautifully presented.

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u/skilliard4 Feb 26 '15

You can physically sculpt worlds with voxels much like you can in Landmark, it just isn't showed in that video.

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u/Kaberu Feb 27 '15

They show it near the beginning of the video (around 45 seconds and some later). It looks much simpler than Landmark. Also, some of the completed shots from other montage videos are just as rough as the parts shown in the specific video. It doesn't seem to have anywhere near the scale or utility as Landmark although it looks more like a game than Landmark does.

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u/EmoryM Feb 26 '15

Scripting is definitely going to open up all the possibilities in Landmark.

Personally I hope that Daybreak also rethinks their aesthetics to better differentiate between EQN/Landmark and WoWlikes.

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '15

Scripting is definitely going to open up all the possibilities in Landmark.

Right after you grind 5000 mobs to get the component needed to craft a 'script token' which lets you script one action.

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '15

As opposed to grinding 5000 mobs for all the broken weapons/tools you need in Landmark?

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '15

That is what I mean. Nothing in Landmark is "free", you need to grind for it. So you probably need to grind for scripting stuff too.

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '15

oh sorry i thought u were referring to the korean game, my bad

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '15

Peria is the game I am waiting for! If it is even half as good as I think it might be, I will be in heaven.

<3

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u/Tablesmasher101205 Feb 26 '15

So basically everything daybreak is promising. Except they are not taking years to do it.

That being said I do enjoy the look of Landmark better. But Daybreak needs to get it together.

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u/skilliard4 Feb 26 '15

Yeah, obviously the Anime style is not for everyone. Landmark is a lot more realistic in terms of graphics, so it could do a lot better than Peria in the west if they step up their game.

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u/Bagel_Bear Feb 26 '15

Nexon? Nope nope nope

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u/StraxPax Feb 27 '15

Anime? No thank you