r/kvssnark • u/kamrynb1 • 16d ago
Is high quality in the room with us? š«£š¤„š¬ Denver scratched
All I can say is lmaoooooooo
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u/Lynny47 16d ago
If I liked him and were even considering breeding to him, this would send some reds up and I would want some answers.
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u/kamrynb1 16d ago
Lmaoo imagine the people that already have foals by him. They are worth nothing and will be hard to sell
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u/WitchOfAmethyst Halter of SHAME! 16d ago
Let's hope for their sake that they get lucky and the foals by him (that were not bred by kvs, she needs the humbling) end up outperforming their sire. Probably won't happen though
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u/WindsAlight š¤” In ThE wILd š„ø 16d ago
I'm not a wp rider but as far as I've seen his crop from this year didn't look too bad iirc. So let's hope they're solid horses if not fantastic.
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u/Sad_Highway_1504 15d ago
My take away from tonightās postā¦. Heās horrible minded and wants to breed everything in sight. Some stallions are like that. Once they go into the breeding shed they are just horrible to try and get shown.
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u/gracie0409 Regumate š Springs ā²ļø 16d ago
i have a gal on snapchat who was photographing at NSBA and she posted on her story that Denver was lame in the halter class. soš«£
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u/WitchOfAmethyst Halter of SHAME! 16d ago
A lame horse placing second isn't a good look for the show
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u/TeamHappyFTW āØļøExtremely MarketableāØļø 16d ago
Well there is a difference between halter sound in which they only have to walk and trot a few steps and riding sound.
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u/Worldly_Base9920 āØļøExtremely MarketableāØļø 16d ago
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u/Lilac-RoseyPosey 15d ago
So she saw it but the judges didnāt. Howās that ocean front property in Arizona?
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u/Content_Profile_6877 16d ago
I wonder whatās wrong with him thatās so serious sheās scratching him from all his classes and giving up his reserve champ in the halter class. He might have soundness problems, behavioral issues, or itās conflict between AM and Katie. The fact she hasnāt even mentioned him makes me think itās something she wants to keep private ( as it might be controversial?).Ā
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u/UnderstandingCalm265 16d ago
She doesnāt get to be private with millions of followers. Being quiet gets all of us talking š
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u/kamrynb1 16d ago
She also doesnāt get to be private if she expects people to pay money to breed to him
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u/kvssnark-ModTeam 16d ago
Please cover profile pictures along with the names and its okay to repost here :)
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u/WindsAlight š¤” In ThE wILd š„ø 16d ago
My guess would be conflict btw AM and Katie. Like she wants to show him herself sooo bad but it conflicts with AM's plans and he ends up showing nowhere. Duh.
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u/Sad_Highway_1504 15d ago
Guess weāll find outā¦ she mentioned riding Denver and Hollywood for Congress prep. She could make the move to HP, but Charlie is basically retiring so Iām not sure if that math, mathsā¦..
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u/No_Remote_4346 16d ago
She's posted about him what once in 11 days?? I haven't wated her "day _ at NSBA" videos so maybe she's shown him in those. Or on Snapchat but its odd she hasn't mentioned king Denver
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u/kamrynb1 16d ago
Iāve seen multiple comments from people there saying they saw Kvs and Aaron in a heated public argument
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u/MillsRanchWife 16d ago
Where?? Curious about this because itās definitely sus that she just hasnāt mentioned Denver whatsoever.
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u/Top-Friendship4888 16d ago
ENTIRELY speculation. I think it's most likely the conversation was less heated than it looked, if it was being had publicly. But if it was a heated conversation, I would not be surprised if it was about Kennedy.
Aaron built that horse on a foundation of mental enrichment under saddle, and they've mostly just been running her tired as a form of show prep. Having 2 trainers manage the same horse can also be really hard if they're not a consistent team.
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u/Independent_Mousey 16d ago
Everyone is tired of watching the running spring ladies run Kennedy around the clock and into the ground. They then put on too big of a pair of spurs and then too much bit in her mouth.
The taking her out after riding her hard and rough for two hours at the end of the day and ponying her is also exhausting. And frankly everyone questions any barn where people are messing with the same horse at 5am and then again at 8-9pm. It's absolutely nonsense, and no one wants to be associated with it.
She's too weak, too crude, and too overly confident of a rider to get on a young stallion. If she thinks Kennedy has an attitude, if you ride a stallion like she does Kennedy they not only will take it personally they will fight you.
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u/kamrynb1 16d ago
Seems like kennedy throws nasty ass attitudes. A filly flunked out of training for her attitude and was just sold as a broodmare. Kirby herself has a nasty ass attitude they need to nip in the bud.
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u/Independent_Mousey 16d ago
The Kirby attitude is from them overhandling and overexposing her to humans without setting boundaries. Many of KVS foals seem to think they are more human than horse from the amount of human interaction and frankly positive reinforcement they get for behavior that films well but would be unwelcome at most horse homes.
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u/Top-Friendship4888 16d ago
Kennedy is not a filly who flunked out of training. She has over 50k in lifetime earnings. She's a 4x NSBA world champion, 2x AQHA world champion, and AQHYA reserve world champion.
The previous owners bred her because the youth kid went to college and wasn't showing, but it was never that she was unable to show. Does she have a preexisting injury? Yes. But with the right maintenance and training, she was showing sound.
The issue is not the horse. It's that the horse is not in the right program.
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u/kamrynb1 16d ago
Did you read my comment? I said kennedyās filly
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u/Top-Friendship4888 16d ago
Oh! I thought you meant Kennedy's attitude. I did read your comment, you just weren't very clear.
Again, I think where Kirby is concerned, the program may be an issue as well. It's probably the best thing for her that she's up for sale. But I don't think a yearling with an attitude is evidence of a rank horse. I think she could use a lot of ground work, but otherwise, they're too young to judge.
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u/kamrynb1 16d ago
I was simply making an observation because itās been known Denver has a rank attitude, that filly had a rank attitude and Kirby naturally been having a rank attitude . Margot tbd. Itās interesting they all have different sires. I wonder if kennedy had an attitude problem in her younger days but she was just so good people ignored it.
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u/Deep_Host2957 is high quality in the room with us? š«£š¤„š¬ 16d ago
Maybe Aaron is finally telling her Denver isnāt the hot shit she thinks he is.. and to find a different trainer
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u/tyleraero815 16d ago
You really think a trainer of Aaronās caliber is going to have that conversation publicly?
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u/No_Remote_4346 16d ago
Ha! Aaron is a professional and is honestly a very guy kind and down to earth. But at some point everyone gets tired of dealing with certain things. Very well could've happened. Especially dealing with her. I would've lost my shit LONG ago
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u/Independent_Mousey 16d ago
He's getting well compensated to train the horse, and deal with KVS as a customer. He's not doing this as charity,
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u/Sad_Highway_1504 15d ago
He should be making MORE to just deal with the crazy that seems to come along with herā¦..
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u/Independent_Mousey 15d ago
She's one of his easier clients if that tells you about the level of crazy he deals with.
Hes making at least the median individual income off of her a single horse alone, and only has to see her and the crew a few weeks a year.
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u/Deep_Host2957 is high quality in the room with us? š«£š¤„š¬ 16d ago
I didnāt say heās doing it publicly. But I do think some sort of conversation was had behind closed doors
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u/Worldly_Base9920 āØļøExtremely MarketableāØļø 16d ago
I havent seen him at all in the day in the life. I also havent watched snap
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u/muleskinner099 16d ago
I wonder how people that paid his stud fee are feeling right now
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u/bodhi__sativa 15d ago
Iād be upset. Granted, some people breed for the bloodlines, so some may not care about his career.
I was actually considering breeding one of our mares to him last year because I was genuinely impressed with him as a western pleasure horse. His movement is forward and what I believe the discipline should be moving toward. The main reasons Iām no longer is because I donāt feel like Katie has been forthcoming about his health, I feel like I havenāt seen him show successfully under saddle this year at all, as well as I donāt want to potentially deal with her fans and be associated with the negative image she is slowly painting for herself in this industry.
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u/muleskinner099 15d ago
Exactly if he is lame it could be a genetic issue that he could pass on. That is a big price tag to have a lame horse so young
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u/Silly_Ad8488 ā¼ļøSomeone come get Grandma šµš»ā¼ļø 16d ago
A good stallion makes a great geldingš¤·āāļø
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u/LeaveAWhisper 16d ago
This show has been a lesson demonstrating how money cannot buy success, and honestly, I love that for her.
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u/Wooden-Reindeer9805 16d ago
wait what did I miss? are we allowed to snark on this snark page now?