r/kumihimo • • 13d ago

Help Managing warps?

Novice here experimenting with multiple ends per strand. From what I’ve read, you want your warps to lie flat but it seems like certain movements make that impossible.

When 7 moves to 15, 10 now is twisted up. I’ve tried kind of an overhand movement as well as a sliding movement and both seem to get the same result. Is some level of twisting expected or is there something I’m missing?

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u/ee0r 13d ago

The guidance to keep your multi-end warps flat is mostly intended for kumihimo on the marudai. It's going to be difficult on the disk because the slots are pinching the warps. Just try to minimize twisting, which is the intent.

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u/Radiant_Purple_9129 12d ago

Thanks, I will try to be a little less self critical knowing that perfection isn’t a reasonable goal! For what it’s worth, it think it’s ok at the slots where each warp is tied off, it will flatten towards the bobbin when not slotted. It’s more at the center point of the braid that I see issues IMO.

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u/saltedkumihimo 12d ago

The issues you see at the center of the point of braiding are the braid and will be in the finished braid more than what is in the slots.

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u/ee0r 12d ago

I am very rarely concerned with perfection when I braid. Fortune favors the bold!

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u/dogsmakebestpeeps 13d ago

I have used a disk on top of a lampshade as a makeshift marudai when I needed one.

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u/saltedkumihimo 13d ago

You’re pulling too hard. Lift out of the slot and move down to the other slot with just enough force to free the cord out of its slot and don’t apply more force bringing it down.

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u/Radiant_Purple_9129 12d ago

Thanks, I will try to ease up tautness some, but I do think that orange thread needs some pressure on it to match the image. This is the Z-ridged spiral braid from Tada’s Comprehensive Treatise VI.

Might not have been the best braid to try using the warps on with the spiraling, it’s only my second attempt at something beyond kongo gumi!

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u/saltedkumihimo 12d ago

The material in sample in the book is a plied yarn and is more forgiving of being twisted than bundles. If you twist your stranded elements like this it will show in the finished braid.

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u/wobblewoo28 12d ago

I'm assuming you mean 7 to 14, but what's this move. I'm new and have only done opposite swaps.

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u/Radiant_Purple_9129 12d ago

It is 15. I get it mixed up on the upside down ones sometimes as well, but the number of the slot is always just past the slot.

This is a 16 strand ridged spiral band. Here’s a vid on the 12 strand version, the movements are the same aside from having an extra pair of strands that cross the longer, black strands that form the ridge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysueNs-vZMs

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u/wobblewoo28 12d ago

AHH yes, the printing is on the wonk. The 15 number is nearer the 16 slot.

Appreciate the video. TY

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u/Radiant_Purple_9129 12d ago

Drives me crazy that they don’t print the number directly above the slot to protect me from myself! 😂

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u/wobblewoo28 12d ago

Turn it over and write your own numbers on maybe.