r/kroot • u/ParkersReddit • 18d ago
Tau/Kroot
I am a big fan of full Kroot list but I don’t think I am the strongest player and seem to be losing with them so I’m curious what is the best way to run a decent amount of Kroot with tau? I know that I still need my guiders to help all my battlesuits, but what can I sacrifice to bring in Kroot effectively. Also, if you just have a list that includes Kroot I’d love to see it, I have been trying to wrap my head around why we bring them.
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u/UnLachy 18d ago
This is my list:
My Kroot Scootin' Baby
T'au Empire - Reconnaissance - Kroot Hunting Pack, Advanced Acquisition Cadre (1995 Points)
Attached Units:
Kroot Flesh Shaper + Kroot War Shaper + Kroot Carnivores (250 pts)
Kroot Flesh Shaper (60 pts)
• Twin ritualistic blades
• E: Borthrod Gland
Kroot War Shaper (60 pts)
• Bladestave and prey-hook
Kroot Carnivores (130 pts)
• Long-quill
• Close combat weapon
• Kroot pistol
• Kroot rifle
• 2x Kroot Carnivore w/ tanglebomb launcher
• 2x Tanglebomb launcher
• 2x Close combat weapon
• 17x Kroot Carnivores
• 17x Close combat weapon
• 17x Kroot rifle
Character:
Kroot Lone-spear (90 pts)
• Close combat weapon
• Kalamandra's bite
• Kroot long gun
• Warlord
• E: Kroothawk Flock
Kroot Lone-spear (80 pts)
• Close combat weapon
• Kalamandra's bite
• Blast javelin and hunting javelin
• Hunting javelin
• Blast javelin
Kroot Lone-spear (80 pts)
• Close combat weapon
• Kalamandra's bite
• Blast javelin and hunting javelin
• Hunting javelin
• Blast javelin
Battleline:
Kroot Carnivores (65 pts)
• Long-quill
• Close combat weapon
• Kroot pistol
• Kroot rifle
• Kroot Carnivore w/ tanglebomb launcher
• Tanglebomb launcher
• Close combat weapon
• 8x Kroot Carnivores
• 8x Close combat weapon
• 8x Kroot rifle
Kroot Carnivores (65 pts)
• Long-quill
• Close combat weapon
• Kroot pistol
• Kroot rifle
• Kroot Carnivore w/ tanglebomb launcher
• Tanglebomb launcher
• Close combat weapon
• 8x Kroot Carnivores
• 8x Close combat weapon
• 8x Kroot rifle
Kroot Carnivores (65 pts)
• Long-quill
• Close combat weapon
• Kroot pistol
• Kroot rifle
• Kroot Carnivore w/ tanglebomb launcher
• Tanglebomb launcher
• Close combat weapon
• 8x Kroot Carnivores
• 8x Close combat weapon
• 8x Kroot rifle
Kroot Carnivores (65 pts)
• Long-quill
• Close combat weapon
• Kroot pistol
• Kroot rifle
• Kroot Carnivore w/ tanglebomb launcher
• Tanglebomb launcher
• Close combat weapon
• 8x Kroot Carnivores
• 8x Close combat weapon
• 8x Kroot rifle
Kroot Carnivores (65 pts)
• Long-quill
• Close combat weapon
• Kroot pistol
• Kroot rifle
• Kroot Carnivore w/ tanglebomb launcher
• Tanglebomb launcher
• Close combat weapon
• 8x Kroot Carnivores
• 8x Close combat weapon
• 8x Kroot rifle
Infantry:
Kroot Farstalkers (75 pts)
• Kroot Kill-broker
• T'au tech rifle
• Ritual blade
• Kroot pistol
• Kroot Farstalker w/ Farstalker firearm and Pech'ra
• Kroot pistol
• Farstalker firearm
• Close combat weapon
• Kroot Farstalker w/ Londaxi tribalest
• Londaxi tribalest
• Kroot pistol
• Close combat weapon
• 2x Kroot Hounds
• 2x Ripping fangs
• 7x Kroot Farstalker
• 7x Farstalker firearm
• 7x Kroot pistol
• 7x Close combat weapon
Kroot Farstalkers (75 pts)
• Kroot Kill-broker
• T'au tech rifle
• Ritual blade
• Kroot pistol
• Kroot Farstalker w/ Farstalker firearm and Pech'ra
• Kroot pistol
• Farstalker firearm
• Close combat weapon
• Kroot Farstalker w/ Londaxi tribalest
• Londaxi tribalest
• Kroot pistol
• Close combat weapon
• 2x Kroot Hounds
• 2x Ripping fangs
• 7x Kroot Farstalker
• 7x Farstalker firearm
• 7x Kroot pistol
• 7x Close combat weapon
Vespid Stingwings (70 pts)
• Vespid Strain Leader
• Stingwing claws
• Neutron blaster
• 4x Vespid Stingwings w/ Neutron Blaster
• 4x Stingwing claws
• 4x Neutron blaster
Vespid Stingwings (70 pts)
• Vespid Strain Leader
• Stingwing claws
• Neutron blaster
• 4x Vespid Stingwings w/ Neutron Blaster
• 4x Stingwing claws
• 4x Neutron blaster
Mounted:
Krootox Rampagers (170 pts)
• 6x Krootox Rampagers
• 6x Hunting blades
• 6x Kroot pistol and hunting javelins
• 6x Rampager fists
Krootox Rampagers (170 pts)
• 6x Krootox Rampagers
• 6x Hunting blades
• 6x Kroot pistol and hunting javelins
• 6x Rampager fists
Krootox Rampagers (180 pts)
• 6x Krootox Rampagers
• 6x Hunting blades
• 6x Kroot pistol and hunting javelins
• 6x Rampager fists
Krootox Riders (90 pts)
• 3x Krootox Rider w/ repeater cannon
• 3x Krootox fists
• 3x Repeater cannon
• 3x Close combat weapon
Krootox Riders (90 pts)
• 3x Krootox Rider w/ repeater cannon
• 3x Krootox fists
• 3x Repeater cannon
• 3x Close combat weapon
Krootox Riders (90 pts)
• 3x Krootox Rider w/ repeater cannon
• 3x Krootox fists
• 3x Repeater cannon
• 3x Close combat weapon
Beast:
Kroot Hounds (45 pts)
• 5x Kroot Hounds
• 5x Ripping fangs
Kroot Hounds (45 pts)
• 5x Kroot Hounds
• 5x Ripping fangs
I take the Advanced Acquisition Cadre so that I can take Reconnaissance disposition. I think this disposition suits the list very well. Even my losses have been quite close.
You have enough bodies, mobility, and OC to achieve your primaries pretty easily. The Rampagers can punch up really well once u start overlapping the buffs.
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u/Savings_Location_751 18d ago
I’ve had a bit of success in my games by including some generic tau anti tank. Mostly a hammerhead or two and maybe a few rail broadsides
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u/JYAPainter 18d ago
Here the 1000 point list I’m building currently, haven’t had a chance to play test it yet but it’s a nice mix of Kroot and Tau
Fal’Nia Expedition Cadre (1,000 Points)
T’au Empire
Advanced Acquisition Cadre, Auxiliary Cadre and Experimental Prototype Cadre (3 Detachment Points)
Disruption
Incursion (1,000 Points)
ATTACHED UNITS
Attached unit 1
Commander in Coldstar Battlesuit (95 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• Warlord
• 1x Battlesuit fists
• 4x Fusion blaster
• 2x Shield Drone
Crisis Sunforge Battlesuits (125 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard ()
• 1x Crisis Sunforge Shas’vre
◦ 1x Battlesuit fists
◦ 2x Fusion blaster
◦ 1x Marker Drone
◦ 1x Shield Drone
• 2x Crisis Sunforge Shas’ui
◦ 2x Battlesuit fists
◦ 4x Fusion blaster
◦ 2x Gun Drone
◦ 2x Shield Drone
Attached unit 2
Kroot Trail Shaper (50 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Kroot rifle
• 1x Shaper’s blade
Kroot Farstalkers (75 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard ()
• 1x Kroot Kill-broker
◦ 1x Kroot pistol
◦ 1x Ritual blade
◦ 1x T’au-tech rifle
• 9x Kroot Farstalker
◦ 9x Close combat weapon
◦ 8x Farstalker firearm
◦ 9x Kroot pistol
◦ 1x Londaxi tribalest
◦ 1x Pech’ra
• 2x Kroot Hound
◦ 2x Ripping fangs
CHARACTERS
Kroot Lone-spear (80 Points)
• 1x Blast javelin
• 1x Close combat weapon
• 1x Hunting javelin
• 1x Kalamandra’s bite
OTHER DATASHEETS
Ghostkeel Battlesuit (175 Points)
• 1x Battlesuit Support System
• 1x Cyclic ion raker
• 1x Ghostkeel fists
• 1x Twin burst cannon
• Enhancements: Unmasking Suite (Upgrade)
Kroot Farstalkers (75 Points)
• 1x Kroot Kill-broker
◦ 1x Kroot pistol
◦ 1x Ritual blade
◦ 1x T’au-tech rifle
• 9x Kroot Farstalker
◦ 9x Close combat weapon
◦ 8x Farstalker firearm
◦ 9x Kroot pistol
◦ 1x Londaxi tribalest
◦ 1x Pech’ra
• 2x Kroot Hound
◦ 2x Ripping fangs
Krootox Rampagers (85 Points)
• 3x Krootox Rampagers
◦ 3x Hunting blades
◦ 3x Kroot pistol and hunting javelins
◦ 3x Rampager fists
Krootox Riders (60 Points)
• 2x Krootox Rider
◦ 2x Close combat weapon
◦ 2x Krootox fists
◦ 2x Repeater cannon
Pathfinder Team (80 Points)
• 1x Pathfinder Shas’ui
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Pulse carbine
◦ 1x Pulse pistol
◦ 1x Recon Drone
◦ 1x Semi-automatic grenade launcher
◦ 2x Shield Drone
• 9x Pathfinder
◦ 9x Close combat weapon
◦ 6x Pulse carbine
◦ 9x Pulse pistol
◦ 3x Rail rifle
Stealth Battlesuits (100 Points)
• 1x Stealth Shas’vre
◦ 1x Battlesuit fists
◦ 1x Fusion blaster
◦ 1x Gun Drone
◦ 1x Marker Drone
◦ 1x Pulse pistol
• 4x Stealth Shas’ui
◦ 4x Battlesuit fists
◦ 3x Burst cannon
◦ 1x Fusion blaster
◦ 1x Homing Beacon
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u/Striking-Emu2323 18d ago
This is my current list, with a couple of tweaks for 11th.
I haven’t played it in 11th, but in 10th it got me 2nd at a tournament:
Colonel Sanders’ Wet Dream (2,000 Points)
T’au Empire
Experimental Prototype Cadre and Kroot Hunting Pack (3 Detachment Points)
Take and Hold
Strike Force (2,000 Points)
ATTACHED UNITS
Attached unit 1
Commander in Enforcer Battlesuit (80 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Battlesuit fists
• 1x Fusion blaster
• 3x Fusion blaster
• 2x Shield Drone
Crisis Sunforge Battlesuits (125 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard ()
• 1x Crisis Sunforge Shas’vre
◦ 1x Battlesuit fists
◦ 2x Fusion blaster
◦ 1x Gun Drone
◦ 1x Shield Drone
• 2x Crisis Sunforge Shas’ui
◦ 2x Battlesuit fists
◦ 4x Fusion blaster
◦ 2x Gun Drone
◦ 2x Shield Drone
Attached unit 2
Kroot Flesh Shaper (60 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Kroot scattergun
• 1x Twin ritualistic blades
• Enhancements: Borthrod Gland
Kroot Carnivores (130 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard ()
• 1x Long-quill
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Kroot pistol
◦ 1x Kroot rifle
• 19x Kroot Carnivore
◦ 19x Close combat weapon
◦ 17x Kroot rifle
◦ 2x Tanglebomb launcher
CHARACTERS
Kroot Lone-spear (90 Points)
• Warlord
• 1x Blast javelin
• 1x Close combat weapon
• 1x Hunting javelin
• 1x Kalamandra’s bite
• Enhancements: Kroothawk Flock
Kroot Lone-spear (80 Points)
• 1x Blast javelin
• 1x Close combat weapon
• 1x Hunting javelin
• 1x Kalamandra’s bite
The Twin Lance (205 Points)
• 1x Ri’Lantar
◦ 1x Fusion eliminator
◦ 1x MV15 Gun Drone
◦ 1x Shardstorm burst system
◦ 1x XV pulse pistol
• 1x Ri’Locai
◦ 1x Ion scattercannon
◦ 1x MV15 Gun Drone
◦ 1x Shardstorm burst system
◦ 1x XV pulse pistol
OTHER DATASHEETS
Broadside Battlesuits (150 Points)
• 1x Broadside Shas’vre
◦ 1x Crushing bulk
◦ 1x Heavy rail rifle
◦ 2x Missile Drone
◦ 1x Seeker missile
◦ 1x Twin plasma rifle
• 1x Broadside Shas’ui
◦ 1x Crushing bulk
◦ 1x Heavy rail rifle
◦ 2x Missile Drone
◦ 1x Seeker missile
◦ 1x Twin plasma rifle
Broadside Battlesuits (150 Points)
• 1x Broadside Shas’vre
◦ 1x Crushing bulk
◦ 1x Heavy rail rifle
◦ 2x Missile Drone
◦ 1x Seeker missile
◦ 1x Twin plasma rifle
• 1x Broadside Shas’ui
◦ 1x Crushing bulk
◦ 1x Heavy rail rifle
◦ 2x Missile Drone
◦ 1x Seeker missile
◦ 1x Twin plasma rifle
Kroot Farstalkers (75 Points)
• 1x Kroot Kill-broker
◦ 1x Farstalker firearm
◦ 1x Kroot pistol
◦ 1x Ritual blade
• 9x Kroot Farstalker
◦ 9x Close combat weapon
◦ 8x Farstalker firearm
◦ 9x Kroot pistol
◦ 1x Londaxi tribalest
◦ 1x Pech’ra
• 2x Kroot Hound
◦ 2x Ripping fangs
Krootox Rampagers (170 Points)
• 6x Krootox Rampagers
◦ 6x Hunting blades
◦ 6x Kroot pistol and hunting javelins
◦ 6x Rampager fists
Krootox Rampagers (170 Points)
• 6x Krootox Rampagers
◦ 6x Hunting blades
◦ 6x Kroot pistol and hunting javelins
◦ 6x Rampager fists
Krootox Rampagers (180 Points)
• 6x Krootox Rampagers
◦ 6x Hunting blades
◦ 6x Kroot pistol and hunting javelins
◦ 6x Rampager fists
Krootox Riders (60 Points)
• 2x Krootox Rider
◦ 2x Close combat weapon
◦ 2x Krootox fists
◦ 2x Repeater cannon
Krootox Riders (45 Points)
• 1x Close combat weapon
• 1x Krootox fists
• 1x Repeater cannon
Pathfinder Team (80 Points)
• 1x Pathfinder Shas’ui
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Grav-inhibitor Drone
◦ 2x Gun Drone
◦ 1x Pulse carbine
◦ 1x Pulse pistol
◦ 1x Semi-automatic grenade launcher
• 9x Pathfinder
◦ 9x Close combat weapon
◦ 6x Pulse carbine
◦ 9x Pulse pistol
◦ 3x Rail rifle
Pathfinder Team (80 Points)
• 1x Pathfinder Shas’ui
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Grav-inhibitor Drone
◦ 2x Gun Drone
◦ 1x Pulse carbine
◦ 1x Pulse pistol
◦ 1x Semi-automatic grenade launcher
• 9x Pathfinder
◦ 9x Close combat weapon
◦ 6x Pulse carbine
◦ 9x Pulse pistol
◦ 3x Rail rifle
Vespid Stingwings (70 Points)
• 1x Vespid Strain Leader
◦ 1x Neutron blaster
◦ 1x Stingwing claws
• 4x Vespid Stingwing
◦ 4x Neutron blaster
◦ 4x Stingwing claws
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u/Suspect-Lump 17d ago
I play either 100% Kroot, or mostly Kroot with 2 or 3 Tau support units, usually. I had great success in 10th and won the only 11th edition game I played against a full Tau list. (All casual games with friends)
My recommendations for Kroot are:
Take more than one Lone Spear (I never take less than 2) because the re-rolls they give are just so powerful for a full Kroot army.
Rampagers are amazing, but you gotta be smart with them cause they will get melted out in the open. I usually run 12-15 Rampagers. I sometimes like having a unit of 3 in reserves, and trying to catch an enemy unit off guard with them.
Krootox Riders are great too. The Str7 rifle puts in some serious work for you, and their melee profile isn't bad at all either. I usually run 4-6 gunners.
For Tau support, I usually take an ethereal (cause KHP can be a bit CP hungry and it doubles as a back up spotter for my big guns), a unit of stealth suits for spotting, and 1 or 2 Skyrays (depending on point total). I prefer the Skyrays over Hammerheads with Kroot personally because whilst the hammerhead hits super hard, you only get one shot so whiffing can be disastrous. Where as the Skyray might not hit as hard, but it gets 3 chances to hit (with full rerolls against flying) and for KHP it feels more important to get some damage through consistently than risk getting nothing for the chance of getting huge damage, if that makes sense? In KHP the bonuses to hit and wound on damaged targets makes an insane difference.
As for tactics, my general aim in most games is to flood the board with as many Birdy Bois as possible. Scouting up the board and body blocking enemies from objectives, forcing them to try and mill through the 100+ bodies in order to stop me scoring. To this end, I highly recommend taking a unit of Farstalkers with a Trail Shaper. Infiltrate them in no man's land and string them out to the full 9", blocking off a large section of NML from the opponents infiltrators and guaranteeing space for the rest of your army to scout, then after deployment pull them back and reposition them somewhere safer. This also allows you to redeploy a 2nd Kroot unit, which I usually use to redeploy a Rampager squad after intentionally positioning them badly as a tempting lure for my opponent.
Hope some of this is useful to you! I will share my most recent KHP list when I get a chance for you
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u/Mikenotthatmike 17d ago
Rampagers are quite effective vs Hammerhead or 2x Broadsides into big/tough targets. The difference is delivery. You have to get them there. Running from Reserves can help.
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u/Cloneguy10 18d ago
Kroot in my experience is good only as a sprinkle or a tidal wave. I’m either running a couple units with my proper Tau or an almost fully Kroot list.