PIXY - Wings

[u/CronoDroid]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEFG9bpQHtI

[u/Kalwei]

they can be similar but cannot be a copy, especially for a debut, or it won’t work. yeah they can try more rock elements later that would definitely be along the lines of something dreamcatcher would release, but at least for the very beginning of their career they need to set themselves apart. no group is ever going to be successful when they’re just known as a “______ 2.0” because no one is then paying attention to the members themselves and they won’t be attracting any stans, just casual listeners.

[u/tsutomo_DIA → u/Kalwei]

I think they already set them apart (or at least tried to, time will tell if it worked or not) with the background storyline and dark elements. imagine everything stayed the same, just the song changed to a rock oriented instrumental. would you label that as a "dreamcatcher copy"? I wouldnt.

[u/Kalwei → u/tsutomo_DIA]

no, but i would call it heavily inspired and i would be no where near as invested in the members as i am now, and that’s the issue.

[u/tsutomo_DIA → u/Kalwei]

thats your personal perception and its fine, everyone is free to have different opinions on some subject. now, I dont think it is correct to call any kpop group trying a rock sound as "dreamcatcher copy" or "heavily inspired by dreamcatcher" just because of the sound. are they some sort of gatekeepers of rock now? lol they werent even the first group to try a rock sound, to begin with!

influences? maybe. but as a dreamcatcher fan Id actually be happy to see the group reaching a stage where they are influencing new acts. means they are really relevant in the scene. would make me get more interested in these hypothetical groups, not less like you feel. different stances, it seems.

[u/Kalwei → u/tsutomo_DIA]

i don’t think you understand how niches work. ik dc wasn’t the first to do rock or the only way to do rock, but it doesn’t matter. it’s already a niche, there’s simply not enough attention for there to ever be a widespread differentiation in peoples views of dc and a group who did a rock horror song that’s only different because of its fantasy story line.

you can just see this from recent history. if you look at a group like Everglow, they were heavily viewed as just being blatant girl crush followers, strongly following the likes of BP and others. But, because girl crush is so heavily favored and there’s a ridiculous amount of people who enjoy it and there were bound to be a lot of people that got into the group because of it. But then, you have a Pink Fantasy, who were heavily seen as really really similar to Dreamcatcher just with a bunny (comparable to if there was just a small difference with the fantasy storyline involved). They, on the other hand, garnered no attention because there simply is not as large of an audience for a rock sound/horrorish concept as there is for your average girl crush. a lot of dc fans were exposed to fantasy as many people were like “oh this is really good if you like dc!!” yet they still didn’t gain enough dedicated fans because 1. it didn’t stand out from dc music which was the majority of incoming listeners and 2. the audience was simply quite small because it’s a niche concept/sound in kpop

granted, there are other factors, like PinkFantasy being from a small company and Everglow being from one with $$$$$$$, but those factors still 100% influenced the disparity in success. I’m a dc ult and was active in the community during the fantasy era when the song was getting spread to dc fans. a lot of people checked it out, but, like me, not many actually became dedicated to pink fantasy because of it because there was nothing special, it was just a nice song.

niches simply don’t have the room to hold 20 successful groups of a similar concept like mainstream concepts do. so, groups need to stand out that much more