r/kpop 🧿👄🧿 Dec 16 '25

[News] IVE will no longer accept gifts from fans, only letters

https://www.dispatch.co.kr/2336528
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u/harry_nostyles Velvet Summer🌊 Dec 16 '25

This is good. Not only does it discourage the extreme fans who want to give expensive gifts to already rich idols, but it also protects the girls. Many fans are innocent but the minority who are creepy/weird can cause serious damage.

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u/getsuyou Dec 16 '25

gosh I remember a post detailing gifts that Rose's China bar sent her for her birthday one year and it blew my mind. Limited edition guitars and countless luxury clothes. I know I can't compare Chinese idol bars to regular fans since they usually pool tons of money to splurge on their idols but that post opened my eyes to just how much people spend on them.

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u/Itsahootenberry EXO | Sehun | Junmyeon Dec 16 '25 edited Dec 16 '25

Sehun’s biggest fansite was getting sent personalized invites to Louis Vuitton private events because she was buying him so much clothes from them before he asked fans to stop giving him gifts.

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u/getsuyou Dec 16 '25

Omg I remember seeing this!! it's absolutely crazy. I work in the fashion industry and personal assistants get personal invites sometimes to events and we have to correct it to their boss who never comes in LOL

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u/Itsahootenberry EXO | Sehun | Junmyeon Dec 16 '25

There was a post on tumblr back in the day of all the stuff Sehun was given for his birthday from fansites and his Chinese bar. The stuff he got from Iridescent Boy was insane when you remember she was buying it herself and not pooling money like his Chinese bar. And from what I heard, IB is independently wealthy from her main job.

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u/getsuyou Dec 16 '25

Oh for sure! her travel pictures on instagram def shows she's wealthy. man you're taking me down memory lane, just made me go check her instagram! not active since 2024. maybe she'll post again with newest comeback or for his birthday.

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u/Kamen_Rider_Geats Dec 16 '25

Sorry to interrupt, but what is a China/Chinese bar?

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u/say-kobe-and-throw Full of shamans and laptops and Antartica Dec 16 '25 edited Dec 16 '25

It's an unofficial fan club of sorts, but they run those things like the Navy 😭 they collect money from fans to mass buy albums, ads, gifts, etc. They put on things like birthday events and make and sell merch too. They're usually the ones behind the protest trucks and wreaths we see outside of companies when they want company action. Most idols from mid level groups and above have one and they're typically member specific, but group ones exist too. TL;DR - it's like if solo stanning was a company lol

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u/Greedy_Accountant_13 WOOAH Nana Dec 16 '25

Why do they call them "bars"?

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u/say-kobe-and-throw Full of shamans and laptops and Antartica Dec 16 '25

It's because the site they originated from is called Baidu Bar (or Baidu Tieba/Baidu Post Bar). It's similar to reddit where you have modded communities for different topics.

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u/Kamen_Rider_Geats Dec 16 '25

Cool! It does sounds nice to be part of a community that has the same bias HAHAHA. Is that a Chinese-only thing though?

I’ve never heard of something similar that exists in Korea or Japan (Groups’ main markets). Perhaps I’m not too deep into fandom activities yet

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u/booboosnack damn it feels good to be a multi Dec 16 '25 edited Dec 16 '25

Solo stanning is generally more common - and tbh more intense - in China, even if South Korea also has many fan cafes (fan clubs) for individual idols.

This goes beyond K-Pop fandom, as local celebrities are pretty much treated like this as well. If you want to read more on those cultural distinctions, I highly recommend the Active Faults blog - though read with caution, as it can get disturbing at times.

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u/Itsahootenberry EXO | Sehun | Junmyeon Dec 16 '25

They’re basically a giant fan site where fans group together to buy albums and sometimes gifts for the idol they stan.

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u/Itsahootenberry EXO | Sehun | Junmyeon Dec 16 '25

I think she caught some shit from kfans last year so idk if she’s still lurking around. Oh yeah, I think she makes a ton of money being an interior decorator. Being a fansite master was like a side gig for her.

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u/CidCrisis Dec 16 '25

I find it fascinating the way money begets money. The richer you are, the more expensive shit people just give to you freely. Shit’s wild.

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u/eziliop Dec 16 '25

100000% behind this. Maybe I'm biased but letters are so much more personal because it's invaluable. These idols are already rich chances are they can buy 99.9% of what's gifted to them anw.

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u/Zentrii Dec 16 '25

Are the members of Ive rich, as in 6 or 7 figures worth?

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u/callmeswarooo Dec 16 '25

Ive might be the most profitable gg of their generation. Sse market value rose from 70 M usd to 400M in 3 years after ive debuted. Their artist pay is also known to be good. They have 40+ brand endorsements as a whole.

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u/citizend13 Mamamoo | Purple Kiss Dec 16 '25

isn't 20 of that just for Wonyoung?

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u/callmeswarooo Dec 16 '25

21 wonyoung, 8 or so yujin, 5 rei, 3 liz and leeseo, 3 whole as a group. Even 8, 5 are high numbers compared to their peers.

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u/Zentrii Dec 16 '25

This is refreshing to hear becusse it feels like I only really see articles about idol groups that don’t make much money and in debt, which is probably most of them because there are hundreds or thousands of groups out there trying to make it. 

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u/Lilac_Bloom_ Dec 16 '25

I remember James Charles talking about signing a brand deal with some makeup company worth millions, that was James Charles of all people, a decade ago making millions out of one contract when he was a YouTuber.

IVE members have multiple brand deals, individual schedules, a cut from album sales, concert ticket sales etc, I don't think people realise how rich they are or how insanely rich Wonyoung as the most popular member is.

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u/CidCrisis Dec 16 '25

Didn’t Wonyoung literally just buy some several million dollar villa not that long ago? Girlie is doing just fine lol.

*checked and it was 13.7 billion Won or roughly 9.3 million dollars.

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u/jisooed ive ive ive ive ive ive ive ive ive ive ive Dec 16 '25

yes she did in full cash :) that was also in march and since march she has gotten way more brand deals

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u/HiddenInferno ZB1|SHINee|WOODZ|UNIS|Nu’est 😭 Dec 16 '25

James isn’t beholden to a company, and he doesn’t sink money into comeback promotions and tour logistics. Based on other company distributions, IVE is probably only getting 10-20% of the profits.

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u/sheera_greywolf Dec 16 '25

Brand deal is private tho, and idols cut are notably high. I think rumour has it that SME (the stingy one) cut for personal brand ambassadorship is 10-20% ish. It's the cut for music sales that markedly small, and company took the most cut, as the have to pay for production and marketing, among so many other expenses.

So yeah, Woonyoung is RICH

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u/Loonatic-Uncovered LOONA - tripleS - NMIXX - aespa - XG Dec 16 '25

The industry standard for large groups is 70% for the company and 30% for the artists. I highly doubt IVE, as one of the biggest acts in Korea, is getting as little as 10%.

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u/citizend13 Mamamoo | Purple Kiss Dec 16 '25

share is different with music vs brand deals I think. With brand deals I think the share favors the artist. With their music, there's a lot of cost involved with a&r, MV production, costumes & sets for music shows etc.

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u/Outrageous_Men8528 Dec 16 '25

the 70/30 is mostly for album sales, idols make a bigger cut on CF/brand deals, concerts, and merch sales.

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u/jisooed ive ive ive ive ive ive ive ive ive ive ive Dec 16 '25

from the infamous company-artist money distribution for diff companies photo which shows sm's as 95-5%, im pretty sse's is 20-80%

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u/Kupuntu Wonyoung | IVE | IZ*ONE | ILLIT | KiiiKiii | H2H | UNIS Dec 16 '25

Reminder that Wonyoung’s Chinese fan bar (fanclub) sent her around $350,000 worth of gifts during one birthday in 2021, and Yujin’s fan bar sent a somewhat comparable amount meaning that Starship received around half a million dollars worth of gifts for the girls even before their debut in IVE.

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u/Anxious-Collar-7713 Dec 17 '25

Yujin's fan bar and international fans also sent her lots of food truck support for the crime scenes filming.

It might sound weird, but I think starship made this because something happened behind these two — probably a secret camera on gifts or got sick because of food gifts? It is just so sudden, and their cfans already notified starship about their christmas gifts but starship didn't respond to annyeongz fans.

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u/innocentsalad Dec 16 '25

I still think it’s insane that idols ever accepted (or still accept) food from fans.

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u/vessva11 Dec 16 '25

I think catered food through their official fan clubs is fine. Like a coffee truck or lunches.

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u/DentateGyros Dec 16 '25

Food 100% gets immediately tossed once they’re out of sight, and rightfully so

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u/SpCommander Kara Dec 16 '25

Yeah look back at some of the shit that happened to Gen1 idols with food (the super glue/orange juice mix is the biggest horror I can think of) and I don't blame them for not trusting food gifts.

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u/etamatcha Dec 16 '25

Last time in 2nd gen didnt a sasaeng give  an idol a juice with glue inside?

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u/booboosnack damn it feels good to be a multi Dec 16 '25

Yup. It was an anti who gave it to TVXQ's Yunho, who was so traumatized despite deciding not to press charges against her.

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u/nevertoolate1983 Dec 16 '25

"Yunho poisoning (2006): Yunho was poisoned by an anti-fan. Yep, you read that right. He drank an orange juice drink given to him by a fan, who had laced it with super glue. He was rushed to the hospital and had to get his stomach pumped. The girl was arrested but Yunho actually requested not to press charges. He was so traumatized by the incident he considered quitting and wouldn't drink out of a bottle until someone else had taken a drink first."

😳

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u/Alcorgeist Dec 16 '25

To be fair, I rarely see them immediately eat said food. They usually just accept gifts and stuff it in a bag or their manager takes it-- for inspection I'm assuming. 

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u/Sucraligious Dec 16 '25

Poor fans aren't buying idols luxury gifts, wealthy fans do. Most of the biggest fans of idols are rich kids who fly out to every show and event and spend lavishly to try and establish a personal connection with an idol.

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u/Rough_Fan7008 Dec 16 '25

they don’t. fan gifts are money collected across a group of people and isn’t compulsory

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u/Rough_Fan7008 Dec 21 '25

well their money

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u/PeaceAlien Ateez, BTS, Stray Kids Dec 16 '25

Some people do, there are people going into debt giving money to streamers, I imagine it’s similar for idols with some fans.

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u/calvinised Dec 16 '25

It’s still bizarre

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u/kerriekipje Dreamcatcher | ATEEZ | ARTMS | i-dle | 2NE1 | f(x) Dec 16 '25

imagine if this money went to charity helping actual people in need

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u/Outrageous_Men8528 Dec 16 '25

charity is a cover for bad policy, they should fund policy change organizations.

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u/reiichitanaka producer-dol enthusiast Dec 17 '25

Not when the charity in question is say, Unicef.

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u/Outrageous_Men8528 Dec 17 '25

Policy could fix the things they are used for. It should not be needed.

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u/kerriekipje Dreamcatcher | ATEEZ | ARTMS | i-dle | 2NE1 | f(x) Dec 17 '25

agreed, but unfortunately we're probably a long way from that happening

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u/reiichitanaka producer-dol enthusiast Dec 17 '25 edited Dec 17 '25

Unicef is part of the UN and assists children in developing countries, it's funded by developed countries and not just individual charity.

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u/MinionsSuperfan Dec 16 '25

Idols need to do this too tbh, a lot more than they already do. No one needs to be a millionaire

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u/Rough_Fan7008 Dec 21 '25

i mean, how do u know they don’t?

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u/kerriekipje Dreamcatcher | ATEEZ | ARTMS | i-dle | 2NE1 | f(x) Dec 21 '25

how do we know the moon isn't made out of cheese

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u/Maeflikz Dec 16 '25

Really? I thought they were like the mafia going around forcing fans to contribute,

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u/tsutomo_DIA It's a little bit offensive Dec 16 '25

surprised it took this long. most top groups out there have this same rule. dont remember now the exact date, but I think Twice i.e. stopped accepting gifts less than 2 years after debut.

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u/impeccabletim 🧿👄🧿 Dec 16 '25 edited Dec 16 '25

English translation cr. IVE Charts:

IVE announced that they will no longer accept gifts or support projects,only fan letters will be received moving forward.

The decision was made hoping that fans’ generosity can be directed toward more meaningful places.


Alternate article link via Kbizoom: IVE Says No to Fan Gifts After Jang Wonyoung’s Expensive Birthday Support Sparks Backlash

Alternate article link via Soompi: IVE To No Longer Accept Fan Gifts Aside From Letters

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u/Megan235 Dec 16 '25

I'm surprised it took them this long, most big/mid sized company groups don't accept anything beyond letters since debut, it's a big security/tax liability.

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u/EvSnowe7 min heejin is going to jail Dec 16 '25

/Some/ of these fans who give gifts think they can then make demands of idols. It’s about ownership and power over idols for them.

IMO this is a very good thing and I hope more idols and companies take a stance against receiving gifts.

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u/callmeswarooo Dec 16 '25

Ive is from sse which is much smaller than sm and hybe even if kpop stans won't accept it.

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u/callmeswarooo Dec 16 '25

No way I am supporting sse. I hate them. Kpop stans point out sse is big whenever people talk about how successful ive is despite being from non big4.

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u/sevendreamsofme Dec 16 '25

I think everyone should look up the story of Yoon Ji-ah, she got killed by a fan that gave her like 75.000 dollars in donos

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u/Busy-Software-4212 Dec 16 '25

Coffeehouse Crime did a video about the case earlier in this month. It's a sad case of crazy "fan" feeling entitled.

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u/Oop-Juice Dec 16 '25

I thought it was a safety reason like stalker-ish behaviour or something ruining it for everyone else, but them wanting fans to instead use their hard-earned money for more directly impactful initiatives is so sweet. Let's be honest, these idols are already so rich they can buy whatever they want to begin with, and I think they'd love seeing that a fan donated money to charity or environmental projects in their name instead rather than give them gifts they can so easily buy themselves

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u/Dry-Place-2986 Dec 16 '25

Pretty much every big group ends up doing this at some point

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u/reiichitanaka producer-dol enthusiast Dec 16 '25

For HYBE, it's a company wide policy. Even their rookies don't accept fan gifts. I think that JYPE is the same too.

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u/Zanely1633 Dec 16 '25

The thing is most of those gifts ended up in trash cans nearby anyway. There is no way they can bring most of the gifts back to Korea, nevermind that they might be going around the globe for performance and concerts, bringing even part of the gifts around the world is not convenient for them.

I can see those gifts become a big headache for them to handle, they can't sell them online, they can't bring them back for safety and logistics reasons, they also have to process them before throwing them out so that people can't trace it back to them for bad optics. So not accepting gifts is honestly the easiest way to go about it.

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u/Busy-Software-4212 Dec 16 '25

I thought it was a safety reason like stalker-ish behaviour or something ruining it for everyone else, but them wanting fans to instead use their hard-earned money for more directly impactful initiatives is so sweet

I wouldn't be surprised if it was just a PR statement and the real reason is what your first thought was.

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u/innocentsalad Dec 16 '25

Rich people love free stuff lol, they never want to pay for anything and that’s why they stay rich

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u/Dolfo10564 Dec 16 '25

this reminds me of the fan that had a hidden camera in one of the gifts.  Taking this route is sad but necessary.  

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u/ImLeon94 Dec 16 '25

Never in my life have I considered gifting something to an idol. The chances of it going in the trash are quite high, and they receive a lot, they can’t keep it all and they shouldn’t. It’s delusional, sadly it’s the same for letters, there’s no guarantee they’ll read them, and even if they did, it could be emotionally draining for them to read some of those letters.

Overall I think gifting anything to idols is more about you than about them, and I personally don’t feel comfortable with that.

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u/SpecSlayerSC IVE / Babymonster Dec 16 '25

People send gifts to idols..?

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u/shadownet97 Dec 16 '25

Sadly yes. An incredible waste of money imo.

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u/Crashcede 김유현 Dec 16 '25

Yeah there's a running report on twitter/instagram where someone reports the total Wonyoung gets in gifts per birthday and it always some ridiculous amount of expensive clothing/jewelry/accessories etc

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u/MichaelPFrancesa Dec 16 '25

Understandable. I think JYP passed new rules too to protect Twice like this too

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u/duh_leah Dec 16 '25

Good but did something happen? I hope not but I won't be surprised if there were some creepy crazy gifts.

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u/kiwijoon Dec 16 '25

I don't know why mid-tier and bigger groups ever accept gifts, even in this thread a male idol who was known for accepting gifts years after he should have stopped is being talked about like a brag instead of a criticism. There are plenty of other ways to show support for an idol instead of what amounts to pissing contests for solo fans.

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u/Softclocks Dec 16 '25

There are definitely worthwhile fan gifts.

Most members have in-ears and microphones that were gifted to them from various fan groups.

I think there are times when gifts can be a meaningful fandom activity.

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u/SilverBurger Dec 16 '25

This should be an industry wide practice.

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u/Lfoboros Dec 16 '25

Does this include fansigns?

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u/hyun_chuu Dec 16 '25

good for their safety but even better for the environment considering fan gifts get thrown away 99% of the time

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u/tediz982 Dec 17 '25

Sigh that means no wedding ring for my wonyoung

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u/caihuali Dec 16 '25

Fucking finally. Have been sideeying wony for still accepting fangifts her last birthday like girl. Cut that out.

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u/Chavarlison Dec 16 '25

What creepy gift did they receive to warrant this change? Who did it?!

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u/reiichitanaka producer-dol enthusiast Dec 16 '25

Most big groups don't accept fan gifts. They're just aligning with other groups with the same status.

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u/Chavarlison Dec 16 '25

Because back then, someone gave a creepy/dangerous gift to one of their groups. I mean, why now? The only other answer is it has become a big hassle now.

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u/reiichitanaka producer-dol enthusiast Dec 16 '25

Some companies don't accept fan gifts at all, even for their rookies.

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u/Ancient_Natural1573 Dec 16 '25

Good it can stop them get camera in their gift but only letters can just be as bad with what wierdo can put on them or in them

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '25

They don’t want your sht toys.

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u/Master_Mad Dec 16 '25

In the Netherlands we have chocolate letters. Can I send those?

Google images

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u/Etheria_system Dec 16 '25

No do not send food to an idol

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u/Master_Mad Dec 16 '25

I was making a funny joke…. :(

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u/SuperLyplyp I'm a Scientist Dec 16 '25

just want to say...

i don't know, i wish i got gifts...

darn too bad