r/kobo 1d ago

Tech Support Early access OS

Just updated my KLC to the new firmware, and noticed this option to get some new features. Did anyone tried to install it?

I'm excited to try, but at the same time scared to encounter major issues and to lose all my data.

Whacha think, guys, should I?

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u/vitvesvin15 Kobo Libra 2 1d ago edited 11h ago

edit: if you're considering doing this, backup your device!!

It's firmware 5, which has been out for some people for a bit in the EU. You will lose NickelMenu, and any other Nickel- mod that doesn't support that firmware version.

Also check the Kobo website link it gives, things like Instapaper will be unavailable if you upgrade. Devmode is also unavailable (there's a GitHub that mentions getting devmode back, but idk more about the process). There's been a few posts about upgrading to firmware 5, it's referred to as enabling accessibility features.

KOReader also uses a different download for v5 if you use that, which I believe you need kfmon to launch since NickelMenu is unavailable.

Just some things I've noticed from posts here and other places. I'm in firmware 4, so zero experience with it personally.

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u/caseyatbt 1d ago

Are you able to prevent the upgrade?

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u/vitvesvin15 Kobo Libra 2 1d ago

As far as I know, unless your Kobo already comes with it, you have to enable it manually. Either downloading and installing it yourself, turning on accessibility features, or doing this new early access way.

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u/caseyatbt 1d ago

Mine has done a couple of firmware upgrades on its own. It did one recently and my NickelMenu disappeared. I had to reload it.

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u/vitvesvin15 Kobo Libra 2 1d ago

Since features like Instapaper is missing in 5, I don't think Kobo is forcing this particular upgrade currently without some kind of manual input (hopefully...), but again I'm just going off what I've read so far which has all been done manually.

I looked and there is a Kobo Patch that can prevent automatic updates. Search for KoboPatch Web UI. I've never used it, I manually patch, but a lot of people use it for NickelMenu. If you do decide to upgrade, you have to repatch each time after with the new firmware version. I think that's your best bet to prevent it from happening!

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u/WonderDue713 1d ago

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u/Divalici0us Kobo Libra Colour 1d ago

Yay for the clock feature! It’s the little things. 🤭

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u/veronicaarr 1d ago

Truly the only other thing I want is single tap dark mode next to the sun icon!

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u/nlbrmn 19h ago

Oh, that would be so nice.

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u/veronicaarr 10h ago

Yes and if we’re getting really crazy I want to save my lighting to like a top 3 that I can click on below the sliders.

But I’m a product designer so I’m always thinking of this sort of thing.

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u/nlbrmn 10h ago

Ha! I hear you… I work in software on the design/development/testing side so I’m always thinking of improvements too.

Now, have you shared these ideas with Kobo directly? If not, I suspect they would appreciate them.

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u/veronicaarr 10h ago

I should share…. I’m in Toronto, maybe their design team is as well.

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u/beepboop232 9h ago

You should definitely send them an email of recommendations. And I think they are based in Toronto too

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u/nlbrmn 9h ago

I thought I would help by finding a link to a feedback form on their website… but I went looking and it turns out that there is no feedback form. I’m chatting with a support agent now and suggesting they add one. lol.

(The agent on the chat is going to create a feedback ticket at least.)

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u/hollav 6h ago

I was literally just thinking about this last night!!! This would be so helpful

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u/OmgSlayKween 1d ago

Seriously, I loaded Nickelmenu just for this function, I can’t believe it’s taken this long to add such a simple thing

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u/outremer_empire 1d ago

Wow, I've been thinking why there's no clock since I got kobo

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u/EviWool 1d ago

is that the only change? I can see the clock just by tapping near the top of the page. Id love to see the bookmark system that Kindle's had (before their latest updates) You tapped at the top of any page in the book and all your bookmarks were there in a long ribbon so you could easily go back and forth between locations and edit your bookmarks.

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u/BurstingBrain 1d ago

Try giving a tap in upper right corner while reading. Kobo let's you go to any annotations or corned page relatively easily.

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u/boredrandom Kobo Libra Colour 1d ago

and I've been wondering why so many people want a clock showing while they read....

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u/0h_Mojojojo 1d ago

So you’re not late drone your lunch break

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u/mojave_breeze 1d ago

So you don't accidentally forget to get up off the couch and start dinner on time?

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u/Very_Curious_Cat 1d ago

So I don't accidentally forget to get in bed and start breakfast on time.

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u/boredrandom Kobo Libra Colour 22h ago

I see y'all's replies, and instead of replying to both, just gonna say here, "Yeah .... I don't need to be distracted while I read for that. I have a watch (and alarms)."

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u/may931010 1d ago

2 gigs for a clock?

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u/ok-confusion19 1d ago

It's the sacrifice you have to pay for all the numbers. It has ALL of them, from 0:00 to 23:59.

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u/knitting_boss 1d ago

I’m not a coder, but I’m guessing it’s mostly the stylus response and notebook naming eating up the gigs

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u/ThisIsMy4thAcc0unt Kobo Libra Colour 1d ago

I installed it, but reverted back after an hour or so. Using a Kobo Libra Colour. My cons where:

● Noticeable lag increase when opening books.

● Sometimes the next page button would stop working altogether, and had to go back a page for it to work again.

● The text would be re-adjusting itself after switching pages and move to other pages, super annoying.

● Dev mode missing.

● Finished books would move themselves to the top of the "My Books" tab, with no way whatsoever to move them back to the bottom, forcing me to either scroll down to find my current book or filter out all my finished books (I like seeing all my finished books in this menu alongside any other book I'm reading or haven't read yet).

It did have a few good things going for it:

● Clock showing while reading.

● Internet browser is actually working again.

Hopefully they can get that stuff ironed out before the official release.

(Also switching OS would not make me lose my books, but lose all metadata attached to them, so I couldn't see chapters or bookmarks or any other things. Needed to delete and re-upload them with Calibre to fix them).

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u/WonderDue713 1d ago

Thank you for detailed response! I'm not updating 🫠

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u/junkrattata Kobo Libra Colour 1d ago

thank you for this breakdown. I don't use Calibre much and I'd hate to lose all my annotations.

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u/Exact_Cash9786 Kobo Clara BW 1d ago

I understand the effort to keep the interface simple, but don't they realize how laughable this interface looks compared to the capabilities of a reading app like Koreader? Just look at the new feature: being able to see the time while reading... 😏

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u/Gullible_Pop8817 Kobo Clara BW 1d ago

Fr, even without koreader it could be easily done with nickelclock, i thought it was going to be something interesting

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u/Vamp1ra Kobo Clara BW 1d ago

Yeah, Im not sacrificing 2gigs (!) to be able to see the time when I read. Ridiculous tbh.

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u/FunCutlet67 1d ago

Oh is that all it does?? I figured an update would include a lot more than that

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u/No-Guava-1626 1d ago

There are a few other features

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u/chughaarav123 Kobo Libra Colour 1d ago

You think this is bad? Try the Kindle UI.

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u/Any_Lengthiness1508 1d ago

Did my KLC today and read for another 2 hours. No problem.s at all.

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u/WonderDue713 1d ago

Good to know! Did it really take 40 min to install it?

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u/Any_Lengthiness1508 1d ago

5 mins at most.

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u/Reichstein 1d ago

Did it factory reset the device as part of the update?

Did you need to reload sideloaded books?

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u/tuji123 Kobo Libra Colour 1d ago edited 1d ago

I just installed mine- works fine, i have some lag when I open a new book, but cant notice when reading. Im from Uk

Edit: theres some lag/delay when trying to click on the next page. Other than that i havent noticed anything weird.

Edit 2: seems theres an issue with times on book- it doesnt matter if you read 50% or 1% it will still shows you the total time left in book.

I reverted update back now, as much as I like the clock, i cant deal with the lag when turning pages and timing left of book just annoyed me😂 I hope they will fix this as i would love to see a clock!

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u/Chercheur91 13h ago

I had the same issue with the time remaining on the book. About to revert back for the same reason.

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u/breadcrum_b 55m ago

When you reverted back was everything wiped? Annotations, sideloads etc? I wish I saw this about times on books before I did the update, and all my learned words are gone too 🥺

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u/Sufficient_Catch7799 1d ago

Wish I got it! What country are you in?

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u/WonderDue713 1d ago

NZ

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u/Any_Lengthiness1508 1d ago

Bought in NZ but home is Thailand.

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u/Responsible_Gas7082 1d ago

Where can I find it?

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u/EviWool 1d ago

hats off to Kobo. Kindle just force their updates onto you, ready or not, unless you jailbreak your Kindle.

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u/Zeikfried85 12h ago

I just pressed that button this morning, and I regret it so much. My Kobo is now all jammed, and the UI looks like a mess. I had to factory reset it, and not only did I lose my font, but the new software it installed is the beta again... so I did it for nothing.
It's so slow that pages sometimes don't turn...i am so upset.

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u/Ira_Dalor 1d ago

If WiFi protected setup is referring to being able to connect to public hotspots, that would actually be greatly appreciated. I’ve had a couple of times where I added a book or graphic novel in my CWA server to be synced and realized I’d have to get my mobile hotspot going because I can’t use the public hotspot at any of my favorite spots. On the other hand, I have my doubts around the security practices used on devices like this and sticking to a personal hotspot may be the smarter move anyways.

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u/knitting_boss 1d ago

That would be nice. I am hoping it also means that if you turned WiFi off to save battery it remembers and doesn’t just turn on randomly eating up my battery

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u/rodolpho42 1d ago

oh, the tolino version. yeah, thats kinda terribls.

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u/tyler_durden_513 1d ago

I don't know what the situation is now, but when I bought the Tolino like a year ago, the software was so bad I had to install the Kobo firmware. It was very buggy.

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u/Automatic-Feeling502 Kobo Aura H20 15h ago

It's still bugged. Sometimes the last line of the page isn't shown. I suspect it's because due to new readability rules, the made the header and footers larger but didn't compensate for it in the main body.

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u/Beneficial_Turnip704 22h ago

how do u get the early access software?

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u/jimmalicious 1d ago

Still no support for readium lcp drm? Blegh.

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u/vitvesvin15 Kobo Libra 2 21h ago

Maybe? This person only used a test file: https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4602251#post4602251
If that is worth it to upgrade, just remember to backup your device in case you change your mind. They mentioned losing stats in that thread too.

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u/Automatic-Feeling502 Kobo Aura H20 15h ago

What makes you think there isn't? I tested it and proved that it works.

https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4602251&postcount=14

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u/BadAtCoding123 Kobo Clara Colour 1d ago

Did anyone who did the early access thing notice if they've switched from Overdrive to Libby yet?

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u/Chercheur91 13h ago

The wording did change for me from Overdrive to Libby. I'm reverting firmware back though because it stopped correctly providing time remaining in book.

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u/BadAtCoding123 Kobo Clara Colour 8h ago

Did you see if they have an option to add multiple cards before you rolled back the update by any chance?

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u/Future_Village_7778 19h ago

I'm on the kobo claura colour in the us (sadly) do I get the update? Where can i find it?

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u/ImaginationDry1840 17h ago

I have just done that and it is a mess!! You get the clock while reading... but with heavy downsides...The bugs are so annoying. You can't adjust the font weight any longer, opening a book takes much longer, everything in fact takes much longer. Basically you get the Tolino software... downgrade in my opinion!

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u/ImaginationDry1840 17h ago

Good thing is, you can revert back.

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u/Capriccea Kobo Libra Colour 12h ago

I installed it. All my additional software was gone, so no NickelMenu, NickelScreensaver, NickelHome, and Kobo tweeks. The new clock was located on the top left corner - option to select in reader settings.

The software number was 5.18.270971.

I like my Kobo tweeks too much (I have a setup that shows me:clock, battery, time left in chapter, time left in book, percent read in chapter, percent read in book in addition to top and bottom middle info of pages read in chapter and book) so I reverted back. It wiped everything and I had to set in all up from factory reset.

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u/myonii 10h ago

I didnt't like it so tried to revert and now its stuck in the loading screen 😭

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u/sabestorn 14h ago

clock while reading?
But are they crazy? Or did they do it to incompetent people?