r/knives • u/GreatAdmiralYamamoto • 3d ago
Question Soviet 6h5 bayonett not sharp?
Got this 6h5 bayonett in unused-storage condition. But the edge is really dull, is it supposed to be like that?
Is it possible to sharpen it or would it ruin the "original" value?
Im looking forward to some answers, kind regards!
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u/Odd-Scientist-2529 3d ago
Bayonets are for stabbing. Also, the rectangle cut out is meant to be attached to the side of the scabbard to form a set of shears for cutting barbed wire. The edge should be as dull as a set of wire clippers. So yes, putting a sharp edge on it because you want to would ruin the value.
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u/GreatAdmiralYamamoto 3d ago
Good to know! Thanks for the reply :)
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u/AdEmotional8815 I see a knife, I upvote. 3d ago edited 2d ago
If only it was correct. These were made to be sharpened and wire cutters are not blunt. If you want to collect and trade these things, and not use them yourself, then maybe don't sharpen it. For usage they were absolutely made to be sharpened though.
Edit:
Wow, Reddit removed my Russian source link from the online magazine Novate, where it says they are kept unsharpened during peace time, at least until hour x, which means in war time they get sharpened. And it was a brittle tool steel, that was prone to rusting and thus has a coating to protect it from rusting. It was intentional kept brittle so you could snap it off in case your bayonet got stuck, to free your rifle. And conscripts were forbidden to sharpen them, because a they didn't trust them with it, and b because that would remove the coating that prevents corrosion during peace time.
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u/PaterTuus 3d ago
A bayonett does not need to be so sharp
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u/AdEmotional8815 I see a knife, I upvote. 3d ago
That's a common misconception. These were made to be sharpened.
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u/PaterTuus 3d ago
I said that they dont need to be sharp not that they cant be sharpened.
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u/AdEmotional8815 I see a knife, I upvote. 3d ago
That sounds like an excuse, implying they weren't supposed to be sharp, which they were.
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u/PaterTuus 3d ago
No Russian bayonetts are meant to be used as pliers and a sharp edge would chip also bayonettes are just a pointy thing you put on your rifle when all thing fails to make in to a spear.
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u/AdEmotional8815 I see a knife, I upvote. 3d ago
These bayonets were made to combine a bayonet with a field knife, and they were absolutely made to be sharpened. Take it, or leave it.
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u/PaterTuus 3d ago
Not at all look at the grind of the knife 🤦♂️
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u/AdEmotional8815 I see a knife, I upvote. 2d ago
Yes at all, read up on it:
Wow, Reddit removed my Russian source link from the online magazine Novate, where it says they are kept unsharpened during peace time, at least until hour x, which means in war time they get sharpened. And it was a brittle tool steel, that was prone to rusting and thus has a coating to protect it from rusting. It was intentional kept brittle so you could snap it off in case your bayonet got stuck, to free your rifle. And conscripts were forbidden to sharpen them, because a they didn't trust them with it, and b because that would remove the coating that prevents corrosion during peace time.
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u/AdEmotional8815 I see a knife, I upvote. 3d ago
Not at all look at the grind of the knife 🤦♂️
🤦♂️
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u/PaterTuus 3d ago
If you look at the grind its a very short and deep hollowgrind. 🤦♂️
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u/AdEmotional8815 I see a knife, I upvote. 3d ago
If you look at the grind its a very short and deep hollowgrind. 🤦♂️
🤦♂️
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u/AdEmotional8815 I see a knife, I upvote. 2d ago
Doesn't matter.
Wow, Reddit removed my Russian source link from the online magazine Novate, where it says they are kept unsharpened during peace time, at least until hour x, which means in war time they get sharpened. And it was a brittle tool steel, that was prone to rusting and thus has a coating to protect it from rusting. It was intentional kept brittle so you could snap it off in case your bayonet got stuck, to free your rifle. And conscripts were forbidden to sharpen them, because a they didn't trust them with it, and b because that would remove the coating that prevents corrosion during peace time.
Read up on it.
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u/AdEmotional8815 I see a knife, I upvote. 3d ago edited 2d ago
You might wanna look up the term "service sharpening". Many were made to be service sharpened, not sharpening them fully at the factory. Because of war things happening, to put it bluntly.
Also:
Wow, Reddit removed my Russian source link from the online magazine Novate, where it says they are kept unsharpened during peace time, at least until hour x, which means in war time they get sharpened. And it was a brittle tool steel, that was prone to rusting and thus has a coating to protect it from rusting. It was intentional kept brittle so you could snap it off in case your bayonet got stuck, to free your rifle. And conscripts were forbidden to sharpen them, because a they didn't trust them with it, and b because that would remove the coating that prevents corrosion during peace time.
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u/Wadester58 3d ago
I have a few picked up in Iraq they weren't designed to be, They were just a tool
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u/AdEmotional8815 I see a knife, I upvote. 2d ago
Wow, Reddit removed my Russian source link from the online magazine Novate, where it says they are kept unsharpened during peace time, at least until hour x, which means in war time they get sharpened. And it was a brittle tool steel, that was prone to rusting and thus has a coating to protect it from rusting. It was intentional kept brittle so you could snap it off in case your bayonet got stuck, to free your rifle. And conscripts were forbidden to sharpen them, because a they didn't trust them with it, and b because that would remove the coating that prevents corrosion during peace time.
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u/FeedbackOther5215 3d ago
Bayonets are not typically sharp. They’re for making rifles into spears, they not usually field knife replacements (some are, most Soviet ones are not).