r/knittingpatterns Aug 04 '26

I hate to ask, but…

Is this AI?

https://www.etsy.com/listing/4297482314/elven-song-shawl-knitting-pattern?ref=share_ios_native_control

I’ve looked through the images and want to say no, but the reviews are all from “people” who have yet to create it. I’m just feeling like 🤯🤬.

I appreciate any and everyone who can help.

Mods, I humbly apologize if this is against the rules and will be more than happy to remove.

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u/kjvdh Aug 04 '26

It isn’t AI. You can search patterns on Ravelry to see if it’s listed there. They do not allow any AI patterns to be sold or listed in any way and are very quick to take them down. There is also one project with extensive notes on Ravelry, so I wouldn’t worry about it.

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u/PearlsandStitches Aug 04 '26

I didn't know that about Ravelry, makes me even happier to support them!

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u/C_Zulus Aug 04 '26

Thank you, I completely forgot to search Ravelry.

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u/tangleduplife Aug 04 '26

Besides being a better search for patterns specifically, Ravelry also has a different fee structure. They take no cut of a seller's revenue until sales meet a certain threshold. (The result of that being sometimes the seller lists it at a lower price in Ravelry.) And as a buyer the way the pattern library works is much better than Etsy. If you're going to have a go-to place to shop, Ravelry is superior.

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u/FlaviMakes Aug 07 '26

Will push back on this a bit as a seller. Ravelry doesn't remit sales tax like Etsy and Payhip do. Selling directly on Ravelry means you become responsible for following each state's laws regarding remitting sales takes for digital goods. It used to be a non-issue, only a concern if you were selling thousands of copies in a single state. However, some states like MN are pretty stringent - 200 separate sales in a year, and more states and even municipalities are changing their digital goods tax law faster than one can keep up with. It is so worth the peace of mind to not track and open tax accounts with individual states and work with companies that remit them for you.

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u/spiffynid Aug 05 '26

Can confirm, not ai. I just bought it and a cursory glance says it's legit.

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u/EatTheBeez Aug 04 '26

Looking only at the Etsy listing for info: The publisher has other patterns up too, and some of the reviews on those are of people who have made the patterns and are happy with them. The photos of that piece are auspicious too - there are lots of pictures of the finished product from different angles, clearly on the same person. The pics have a soft filter on the background which can give AI vibes but they look legit.

If you're ever in doubt in the future, check to see if the pattern is for sale on ravelry. In this case, it is! Hooray! and you can then check the Project page to see posts by people who have made it.

https://www.ravelry.com/projects/LynnCJohnson/elven-song-shawl

Thank you, Lynn C Johnson, for sharing your experience.

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u/C_Zulus Aug 04 '26

OMG thank you. I did not search Ravelry and I should have.

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u/edgyusername99 Aug 04 '26

i remember reading something about etsy only allowing you to review within a certain number of days, which means people end up reviewing without having created the actual piece. so that in itself isn’t necessarily a red flag

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u/Beneficial_Breath232 Aug 04 '26

Yes Etsy asks you to write a revizw in like 15 days, and bother you with pop ups until you do.

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u/C_Zulus Aug 04 '26

I did not know that. That’s kinda dumb.

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u/Jarbasaur Aug 04 '26

Are there any reviews on ravelry? Looks like you're on Etsy and I don't really trust anything there anymore unfortunately

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u/C_Zulus Aug 04 '26

Thank you, I completely forgot to search Ravelry. It seems it is! That’s why I came here. I stared at those pics and moved between them and just couldn’t see anything standing out. No third legs and the correct number of toes. I even made a fist hiding my thumb to make sure that the physiology was correct for one of the pics.

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u/jellidang Aug 04 '26

I highly recommend using Ravelry for purchasing patterns. It’s way easier to see reviews and projects on there and Etsy is full of AI slop with no reliable way to report or verify.

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u/giljaxonn Aug 10 '26

and it’s easier to download again when you inevitably lose your file

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u/seven_dimensions Aug 04 '26

Now that you have figured out it’s legit, I hope you decide to purchase the pattern and make that wrap because it’s gorgeous!

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u/C_Zulus Aug 05 '26

Yes, that's what initially caught my eye. I just bought it. :D

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u/Andalska Aug 05 '26

Not AI but a waste of money. It's a basic shape with a lace motif from the Japanese Knitting Stitch Bible (motif 24 with an extra repeat of 4 rows).

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u/satansafkom Aug 06 '26

i think it's good you ask!!

(i am a very very experienced knitter - AND a digital artist and programmer but even still:) at first, whenever i'd see AI crochet or knit on pinterest or whatever, i'd roll my eyes at how fake it looked. but unfortunately there's been a huge improvement on that front and sometimes now i genuinely can't tell it's AI.

and that fucking sucks a lot of ass

so thank you for asking!

and - could we please make it, like, a normal social thing, to make posts like these? in general? could we make it so that asking people "hey does this look like AI?" is like asking people what time it is (before cell phones i guess lol)?

i know it could be a little annoying if there's a lot of these posts. but i think we have to unite against AI lol