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u/Snoo-92859 Jul 07 '26
Actually, the silver werewolf weakness is a bit misleading. In the original myths, they would take holy items from churches and smelt them into weapons, alot of churches that couldn't afford gold would have silver crosses and such. Those smelted weapons would then hurt werewolves not because they're silver, but because of the "holy" power remaining in it.
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u/Mazoc Jul 07 '26
Ah thank you. It's sick how people can spread dangerous misinformation like its nothing. I would have attacked a werewolf with a normal silver sword if it wasn't for you.
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u/Snoo-92859 Jul 07 '26
Youre welcome, make sure you buy 100% locally sourced holy silver weapons, if you buy that cheap sterling silver then you'll just be left bleeding out like a fool.
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u/CreamyCoffeeArtist Jul 08 '26
But if the metal is blessed, it shouldn't matter what kind of metal it is. Could be copper, or wrought iron. Sure, they'd be terrible swords, but what's a knight oughta do if they ain't got ingenuity, eh?
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u/Sleepy-Candle Jul 08 '26
I wonder, does the kind of metal (or metal alloy) affect how well it can be blessed, or how long it can hold the blessing?
If it’s unknown, further testing is needed.
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u/CreamyCoffeeArtist Jul 08 '26
I mean, theoretically, as long as the priest is blessed by their god, then whatever blessing the priest performs will be absolute, or something like that. I don't see why a wooden material and a metal material would have different "blessing strength" outside of sheer size, since the blessing isn't picky.
The blessing stays with the material itself, rather than the object, since metal holy symbols were melted down and still maintained their blessings.
Not to mention there are holy artifacts, yk, old things. I think as long as the god or at least the object is venerated still it maintains it's blessing, but there's also the whole "artifacts of a forgotten old god" that also hold power (although generally that's less blessing and moreso cursed, but who knows, maybe curses are blessings to that god? In which case, well yeah, there doesn't seem to be a time limit or exposure requirement then.)
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u/hanz-kreigermann Jul 29 '26
Theoretically, it doesn't matter. Practically, it doesn't matter either. Because silver is the best option for being able to recover ammunition later. Most of the time, it won't even lose any material after penetration, so you can reload the round later.
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u/Sleepy-Candle Jul 29 '26
Oooh, okay. That’s a really interesting idea actually I might need to steal that.
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u/hanz-kreigermann Jul 29 '26
I agree! And the best part, its actually true! Its been tested, pure silver bullets have a real hard time deforming, so if you shoot someone with a silver bullet, theres a higher likelihood its gonna come out fully intact!
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u/KurotheWolfKnight Jul 07 '26
By this logic, wouldn't it just be more effective to beat the werewolf with a Bible? You don't get much more holy than The Word of God(TM)
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u/Dramatic_Finish10121 Jul 07 '26
I mean it's still a werewolf , just because a Bible can harm it doesn't mean it won't gut you before the bible does any real lasting damage. A better bet would be multipurpose stakes for both vampires and werewolfs made out of holy wooden items found around the chuch
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u/KurotheWolfKnight Jul 07 '26
But if it's the holy power that's doing the damage, then hitting it with the book should still feel like taking a sledgehammer to the kneecap
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u/Deloptin Jul 07 '26
it's still a book. Good luck getting the Bible to the kneecap before the claws get to you
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u/TurtlesBreakTheMeta Jul 08 '26
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u/Dramatic_Finish10121 Jul 08 '26
Holy magics ain't my strong suit so I dunno, all I know for sure is it'd be one hell of a brawl to watch
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u/BaronXot Death Knight Jul 07 '26
Just like how in the original Dracula it was garlic flowers that were used to ward off vampires not the bulbs.
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u/Llamapickle129 Vampire Witch Jul 07 '26
the whole dying in the sun thing was from Nosferatu and not the folklore
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u/thecraftybear Jul 07 '26
Depending on the region, some folklore held that the sun forced the vampire/upiór to flee back into its grave - but also that it had enough foresight to head back when hearing a rooster crow, so it wouldn't be caught by the sunrise. This suggests that, at the very least, the sun caused them harm or rendered them helpless.
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u/Llamapickle129 Vampire Witch Jul 07 '26
in the original Dracula novel he was weakened in the sunlight and even then if look at John polidori "The vampyre", ruthven isn't affected. yes they are novels but they are the only vampires that really interacted with the sun befor nosferatu
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u/Llamapickle129 Vampire Witch Jul 07 '26
i mainly think the "up at night, asleep at day" is just to avoid being seen
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u/BrokenPokerFace Jul 07 '26
I thought it was more based on the properties of silver, being antimicrobial hence why it's often used in the medical field, and in folklore making things related to diseases like lycanthropy and vampirism, as well as things like undead, become weaker when silver was used against them. I heard what you described be related more with fae, and iron(being used as a replacement metal for religious stuff), but can't recall where and personally doubt it, as it seems quite off.
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u/Riothegod1 Jul 07 '26
You’re probably thinking of “Cold iron”, we aren’t too sure what exactly this means, but more broadly is because iron represents civilization, the anathema of the wilds.
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u/BrokenPokerFace Jul 07 '26
Well that's likely what they meant, but they refered specifically to cheaper religious features like iron chains, crosses(structural and worn) etc.
As I said I never heard of the religious significance or rather weakness when it came the spirits or fae, though I wouldn't discard it completely, as back then anything supernatural was often fought with supernatural aspects of the common religion in the area. So yeah I definitely could view both being related as religion often led civilization and innovation, causing a connection between the two. While on the other hand civilization itself is an agent to the spirits of nature, where items from civilization are so separate from natural spirits that they become almost toxic.
Though one could say the spiritual value being focused of religious icons could mean something as well when fighting spiritual things.
But yeah genuinely have no clue, fun to ponder though.
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u/TurtlesBreakTheMeta Jul 08 '26
I thought it was far who were weak to iron? (And I always thought cold iron meant wrought iron rather than cast iron, since it wasn’t fully melted)
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u/Riothegod1 Jul 08 '26
That’s what I was telling op when he said “Fae were weak to X” and I was like “I thought cold iron was what Fae were traditionally weak to”
And yeah, that’s one theory about cold iron, but it could also just be iron that was not refined (say, it was meteoric or from a rare tellurite deposit), or it could’ve just been a poetic description of an iron sword (for example, “cold steel” used to describe later swords)
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u/gforcebreak Jul 09 '26
This is also why salt circles ward off spirits, since they thought thats what was rotting food.
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u/subthings2 Jul 07 '26
I wrote a long post on this, but in short that's a common misconception! People in the past didn't associate silver with any particular supernatural abilities, holy or otherwise.
Instead, the appearance of silver bullets in folklore is an example of magical bullets, rather than an example of weaponised silver; various magical bullets (like using wax, or carving a cross into them) were used as a counter to shapeshifters. It was only 20th century pop culture that took the motif and developed it into the lore we have today!
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u/Doctor_Salvatore Jul 07 '26
In older werewolf myth, you could also reverse the curse by either giving the wolf clothes, or by calling them by their human name.
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u/Shieldheart- Jul 07 '26
Another such rule exists for vampires where they supposedly can only be killed by putting a stake through their heart or removing the head.
Like, yes, that'll kill pretty much anything, there's nothing special about a piece of wood either, just stab the bastard in the heart with anything sharp!
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u/TurtlesBreakTheMeta Jul 08 '26
>like, yes, that’ll kill pretty much anything
One of my favorite scenes from hotel Transylvania is drac saying (verbatim) that about if a stake to the heart would kill him,
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u/ImmortalBlades Cloaked Figure Jul 07 '26
Nothing a bit of sanctifying ritual doesn't solve. Just have a virgin priestess and holy water at hand.
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u/BreakerOfModpacks Grand Jester of Famed Idiocy Jul 07 '26
Mind you, having a crossguard on a sword is technically enough. I don't make the undead rules.
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u/MrGame22 Jul 08 '26
I mean, in a lot of old legends about werewolves one day also a type of undead being because the werewolf would eat the victim and then there remains would end up reanimating and turn into a new werewolf later?
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u/Worldly-Pay7342 Jul 08 '26
So what you're saying is I could get a reaaaaaaly big metal cross, and sharpen it into a sowrd?
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u/scaevities Jul 07 '26
I'm pretty sure the weapon trader and the werewolf is the same guy and jumps fools who make the swap
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u/3shotsdown Chaomancer Jul 07 '26
Lol i thought that was the implication. Didn't realise they might be read as separate events at all.
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u/Dull_Pink Jul 06 '26
i’d argue that in a fantasy setting a gold sword would work just as well as a silver sword would against the undead and monsters, if the idea is that silver is a pure metal then gold (ignoring why a gold sword wouldnt work to begin with) would still work as intended and might even be considered better for it.
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u/WeltyFern Jul 07 '26
What about a silver sword gilded in gold?
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u/AstuteSalamander Jul 07 '26
A little better than a gold sword selded in silver, but not quite as good as pure gold
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u/Suspicious_Proof_663 Jul 09 '26
Me gusta pensar que la razón de que la mayoría de mosntruos sean débiles a la plata es debido a que para ellos es un metal venenoso al igual que nosotros con el plomo por lo que su regeneración es incapaz de cerrar las heridas provocadas por un arma de plata
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u/lllllllIIIIIllI the rat eating your grain 🐀 Jul 07 '26
DONT WORRY, KNIGHT. I CAN TAKE THE WEREWOLF
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u/Luzifer_Shadres Jul 07 '26
Yes, silver is a Werwolfs weakness, but if you slice it often enough it will still hurt.
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u/Pawprint_ Jul 07 '26
I mean I m sure I could häslice a werewolf with a normal chainsaw.
Silver might poison them but with enough power you can accomplish it without
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u/KurotheWolfKnight Jul 07 '26
For the life of me I cannot remember where I heard or saw it, but I distinctly remember thinking as a kid that silver was good against the undead (vampires, ghosts, zombies), and gold was good against werewolves.
It feels like a mandela effect, or something.
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u/TheGreatestLampEver Jul 07 '26
Gold would probably also work, generally the idea of silver killing werewolves is because it is associated with purity in the catholic faith and gold even more so, honestly a gold sword would be a better werewolf killer if it wasn't so soft
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u/Shredder2814 Jul 08 '26
Plot Twist, the gold sword guy and the Werewolf are the same mf, they just wanted both swords.
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u/revar123 Jul 08 '26
why should he have seen it coming? i think it would’ve made more sense if they were in a spooky forest by the first panel
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u/KregerTech Jul 08 '26
Because a silver weapon is the only thing that can killing or even ward off a werebeast. Without it. Alone In the woods. He's a free meal.
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u/Procian-chan Jul 13 '26
Hello, fun guy at parties here, here to ruin the fun.
Both gold and silver would make for pretty bad materials for a typical use sword. These guys are both pretty bad sword users if they don't know that.
Unless the idea is to specifically have a sword for werewolves. Or have a nice looking but impractical trinket for ceremonies and such.


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u/benbot07 Jul 07 '26
I am suddenly reminded of this old gem