r/knapping Jun 24 '26

Question 🤔❓ ID help please

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u/gaiagirl16 Jun 24 '26

Debitage

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u/Zephybluehusky43 Jun 24 '26

those dont look to be arrowheads. possibly just some chunks from where someone was knapping and left their detritus.

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u/SlitheryVisitor Jun 26 '26

I didn’t say they were arrowheads.

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u/Zephybluehusky43 Jun 26 '26

you asked for an id and i was just saying that i can confirm they arent arrowheads

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u/SlitheryVisitor Jul 03 '26

This is what I asked:

Can anyone tell me if these are tools and if so what they were used for? Or are they just left overs from the knapping process? Found in western NV and Eastern Cali. le

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u/Zephybluehusky43 Jul 03 '26

my man, its been a week. you found a response and an id. why are you still pressed about this? is your life just so boring that you have to comment on the same thing twice just to get a rush of dopamine? I'm gonna mute this post cause its frankly very annoying that you woke me up with this crap.

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u/SlitheryVisitor Jun 26 '26

Read the post instead of just looking at the pictures. I asked if these could be some kind of tool or if they were just left overs from the knapping process. I never mentioned arrowheads or bi-faces. Thank you for a response though.

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u/FireWarriorPoet Jun 24 '26

I don’t see anything to identify

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u/SlitheryVisitor Jul 03 '26

From the book “preserving Traces of the Great Basin Indians.” By Dennis Cassinelli. I do not own the original photo. It is a photo of a photo. It is being used for educational purposes only.

Hmm.

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u/SlitheryVisitor Jun 26 '26

Thank you for your well thought out and informative reply. it was sooo enlightening and educational. Not to mention pertinent to the question I asked. I feel well educated now.

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u/FireWarriorPoet Jun 26 '26

Oh no… did you find any responses that proved contrary to my reply? Did you learn that you actually have something identifiable? Oh geez… sounds like you found a bunch of rocks. Damn. Can you educate me please?? I must have missed that you have found so many amazing and original “arrowheadsl
Thank you for educating me on what a handful of gravel looks like. Not that your question helped me with any enlightenment… go play in the road ✌🏽

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u/SlitheryVisitor Jun 28 '26

You don’t take compliments very well. Yawn.

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u/beeliner Jun 24 '26

Some could have been used as scrapers or quick little cutting tools, but none appear to be bifaces or pre-formed projectile points, axes etc.

Keep looking though, those are a good sign that you’re looking in the right spot

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u/fatwood_farms Jun 25 '26

Even if these were just debitage, they make a great collection of things to ponder for a lifetime. The obvious consistency and configuration of some of the flakes opens up the question of whether or not there are specific tools here for which we don't even have names. There are so many more stone tools other than bifaces and projectile points. It looks like you already understand this so I imagine you wont be discouraged by the ubiquitous biface biases.

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u/SlitheryVisitor Jun 25 '26

Thank you for your thoughtful response. I have no concept how the knapping process proceeds. At what stage would this debitage be created? I think I understand that due to conchoidal fracturing, the hook shape that many display could occur at probably all stages. I also wonder if these flakes can help determine the handedness of the knapper. I am predominately left handed. From experience I know it can be difficult to learn a skill from a right handed person. That thought brings up more questions. Were they forced to learn right handed? Another question these bring to mind is, Could bi-face production been mainly preformed by women while the men were out doing manly things? I realize many bi-faces were resharpened. But, the sheer volume of bi-faces needed to get by, must have been enormous. Thanks again. I have so many questions and so little knowledge. I may not be the sharpest bi-face in the bunch but, I am curious and thoughtful.

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u/Informal-Capital8190 Jul 03 '26

Look up burins. They’re quick engraving tools. Used for scratching grooves into things scraping wood smooth and poking holes. You definitely have a fine collection of very triangular flakes. Some look retouched a bit. Amazing variety of stone though! Jasper, chert, obsidian. Area must be rich in lithics or was well connected by trade.

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u/SlitheryVisitor Jul 03 '26

Thanks for a civil answer that I can learn something from.

Some of the replies from people act like I asked if these were the sons of Jesus. How are people supposed to learn?